turnerpor questions

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

I have it pluged with the red strip to the left like in the picture it works fine untill i unplug it from the laptop.
 

turbodig

Active member
Re: turnerpor questions

juicehead9 said:
I have it pluged with the red strip to the left like in the picture it works fine untill i unplug it from the laptop.

It's not getting internal battery voltage, sounds like.

Program the thing with one of your bins. Then unplug from the laptop.
Read the ostrich back into TP (aka, a verify). If the data returned is bad, you got funky batteries or a bad ostrich.
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

well whats got me thinking is if i unplug it it goes into limp mode but plug it back up and it runs ok? I'll check if it is holding a bin tomorrow.
 

skwayb

NWSTP
Re: turnerpor questions

On some Ostriches, you have to have the Key on when you upload a bin if it is connected to the ECM. OTherwise it will fail verification everytime. Tyr a key on upload if it fials to verify the other way.
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

I just thought of something I have not registered my Tuner Pro RT yet could this be the problem?
 

turbodig

Active member
Re: turnerpor questions

juicehead9 said:
I tried verifying the ostrich after loading a bin and it passed.


Hmmm. Sounds like it isn't getting voltage from the ECM to power the ostrich disconnected.

Check the socket end of the ostrich cable for looseness.

You may well have a bad ostrich....

Is your memcal adapter socket good and tight?
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

I think i figured it out. I have the Phil long chip set up and his chip and adapter is 32 pin. and the Ostrich is 28 pin does this sound like it wouldnt work?
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

OK this is what I have Moates GP3 Switcher Adapter with ZIFi changed the jumper on J-1 and conected the cable from the Ostrich all the way to the right with 4 slots open to the left (2 slots top and 2 on bottem) red strip on the cable to the left. Cranked the truck with no usb cable hooked up and it ran like it should and no check eng. light. I think this may have fixed it? If so I am sure I will have some new questions about tunning and Turner pro. Well I do have one question right off hand, how do I or can I load a few bin files to the Ostrich and switch to a difrent tune? Can I use the switch that came with the Moates GP3 Switcher Adapter with ZIF? Say one tune in position 0 and a difrent one on position 1 etc or do i have to use my laptop to do this every time?
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

Does this look right?

gp3.jpg
 

juicehead9

93 Typhoon # 0973
Re: turnerpor questions

I hate to bring a old post back to life but this one never got answered:
how do I or can I load a few code $59 bin files to the Ostrich and switch to a difrent tune ie one for high way driving and one for all out etc.? Can I use the switch that came with the Moates GP3 Switcher Adapter with ZIF? Say one tune in position 0 and a difrent one on position 1 etc or do i have to use my laptop to do this every time?
 

JSM

Active member
Re: turnerpor questions

Tunerpro and ostrich have banks you can load, you will need to have a laptop to switch between them.

Banks selection is on the toolbar (might need to turn it on).

You COULD use a g3 with ostrich, it would require stacking the bin and loading it up. The definition files that you need to do this have not been created for tunerpro yet though as very few would actually probably use this feature.
 

turbodig

Active member
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As Jeff said, you can do it, but it's a bit more involved. Multichips sorta fly in the face of what code59 is about.

The first step, is getting a tune dialed in for each "setting" that you intend to have- ie, you need to know what bins you want, and lay them out such that they'll fit within the positions of the moates switcher.

When I do 'em, I'll usually end up with something like:

0 - security
1 - low speed/valet
2 - cheap pump gas, low boost, safety tune.
3 - same as #2, optimized for max fuel economy (maybe at the expense of perfect driveability)
4 - better pump gas, moderate timing, slightly more than stock boost
5 - 2 deg more timing than #4
6 - 2 deg more timing than #5
7 - Good unleaded, xylene or 100 octane,18-ish psi moderate timing
8 - 2 deg more timing than #7
9 - 2 deg more timing than #8
A - 110 race fuel, low 20s boost, low 20s timing.
B - A - 5% fuel at WOT
C - A + 5% fuel at WOT
D - A + 10% fuel at WOT
E- C116, max workable boost, timing 22-24
F- E + 10% WOT fuel

You can mix and match pretty much anything - alcohol/no alcohol, E85, etc. 16 positions actually gets to be a lot to fill.

With the exception of the +/- % fuel, each must be tuned as a single chip, which is easier done as an individual 32k binary. Trying to tune individuals in the stack would be lotsa work.

Once you get your individual bins to where you like them, then build your multichip.
 

SY-1193

Active member
Re: turnerpor questions

I use a Moates G3 with the Ostrich. You have to have both red jumpers in the UP postion to have pass thru (works just like a G1 with both red jumpers in UP postion).

READ Case #2:

http://www.moates.net/documentation.php?documentation_id=11


As a side note: I played with a 32 pin cable (you need a 32 not a 28 pin as supplied with the ostrich) to do this and put in different .bins to make it switch with the G3 and the ostrich but have had no luck so far. Just put both jumpers in the UP postion and that will get you going. Don't let my failure with the switcher stop you from experimenting though! There is a Software type BANK switcher that can be used to switch "BANKS" within Tunerpro for quick change of your .bins. The only drawback is you need the laptop connected to switch BANKS.
 
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