Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

[Nova67ss]

As the topic says...

Is a 7,50 or faster Syclone possible?

No one thought it was possible to reach 8, but we´re here now, next year I think its gona bee 1 Sy in europe and 1 in US (Ed puching U now ) thats going to be running 8,8x - 8,9x steady..

Have to clarifye some small details.. This Q is NOT about the Syclone Robert done the 8 sec pass with... Thats a street legal Sy that runs 8-9 sec and will so remain..

To simplifye the Q this is NOT TO BE STREET LEGAL we are just fooling around with with the thought of a PURE RACE SY

But with AWD/4WD and a V6 turbo (SyTy konsept) 7,50?

What does U think or guess will take/need to bee done to run 7,50 or faster??

Power is there allready..

Maybee a truck is allready in production??
There IS a real nice Sy racebuildup in US but thats a RWD..

Weight is a major Et killer.

This is no houx, I & Robert think this is possible (or the coffe is to strong again ;D )

Maybee next year?? or -08??

C´mon now and start guessing and rubb your brain an help do a brainstorm Sy..

 

[libertysyclone]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Not running leaded race fuel, nor with a "stock" type suspension. but yes I think that the 7's are feasabile. Shep is doing it in a 1st gen eclipse. shep

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[warmpancakes]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I think A syclone will be in the 7s before you know it,

 

[2kwik4u]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Not running leaded race fuel, nor with a "stock" type suspension. but yes I think that the 7's are feasabile. Shep is doing it in a 1st gen eclipse. shep

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Holy High boost batman!!!!

Hallman boost controller set to 55 psi

Thats nukin Futz.


I think one of you guys will make the 7's in the next year or so.....Not sure which one, but it will be a fun battle to watch

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I think it will happen this year and it wont bew either of them not that robert or eds trucks are slouches, but there are trucks out there that arent active members

 

[JSM]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Jeremy just called, he thinks we can do it on the stock turbo.

Saturday racing here we come.

 

[George Blake]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Jeremy just called, he thinks we can do it on the stock turbo.

Saturday racing here we come.

:rotf:

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I think it will happen this year and it wont bew either of them not that robert or eds trucks are slouches, but there are trucks out there that arent active members

who knows about them? and why doesn't anyone share any information?

they don't have to be members, but if someone knows why keep it a secret?

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Because the owner of the truck uses it as an income source, and very very few people know the real number

 

[Silly]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

As the topic says...

Is a 7,50 or faster Syclone possible?

No one thought it was possible to reach 8, but we´re here now, next year I think its gona bee 1 Sy in europe and 1 in US (Ed puching U now ) thats going to be running 8,8x - 8,9x steady..

But with AWD/4WD and a V6 turbo (SyTy konsept) 7,50?

What does U think or guess will take/need to bee done to run 7,50 or faster??

Power is there allready..

Maybee a truck is allready in production??
There IS a real nice Sy racebuildup in US but thats a RWD..

Weight is a major Et killer.

This is no houx, I & Robert think this is possible (or the coffe is to strong again ;D )

Maybee next year?? or -08??

C´mon now and start guessing and rubb your brain an help do a brainstorm Sy..

No stock suspension nor stock chassis will run 7.9999 let alone 7.50.

What type of drivetrain parts are out there that can hold that power? Can a 4l80 do it or will it weigh too much and soak up too much power?

You say the power is there already?? How much power do you think you need to run 7's? Alot more than 750 to the wheels thats for damn sure ALOT more.

Now maybe a backhalve sub 3000# raceweight truck might be able to do it, but would you guys consider it a syty when its 4 linked and backhalved rwd?

I do not see 7.50 out of an AWD truck ever, hope I am wrong but thats quite a mountain to climb imho.

 

[2kwik4u]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

No stock suspension nor stock chassis will run 7.9999 let alone 7.50.

What type of drivetrain parts are out there that can hold that power? Can a 4l80 do it or will it weigh too much and soak up too much power?

You say the power is there already?? How much power do you think you need to run 7's? Alot more than 750 to the wheels thats for damn sure ALOT more.

Now maybe a backhalve sub 3000# raceweight truck might be able to do it, but would you guys consider it a syty when its 4 linked and backhalved rwd?

I do not see 7.50 out of an AWD truck ever, hope I am wrong but thats quite a mountain to climb imho.

That 750 number was on a Dyno with low boost. The MPH, and weight tell a totally different story.....

Also I think we've already proven that the 80E doesn't "soak up" all the power that people think it does.

 

[Silly]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

That 750 number was on a Dyno with low boost. The MPH, and weight tell a totally different story.....

Also I think we've already proven that the 80E doesn't "soak up" all the power that people think it does.

I still think you will need 1200+ to the wheels to hit 7's and that is not an easy job.

I have no experience with the 80E's, do you know what percentage a 80e soaks up? I believe a stock truck loses 23% if I am not mistaken? Also what type of rear are we talking about to run 7's? A fab9? ($$$$$$) a 9"? (soaks up even more power) 12 bolt? (cheaper and doesn't soak up as much power yet not as durable as a 9")?

There are stock suspension 10" tire ls1's running 7's and they amaze me just because of the stock suspension and the small tire. To see that out of a v6 truck would be even more impressive, unfortunatlly I think we will see a race truck before we see a truck with any stock parts. That is just my opinion.

Good luck to those who are going to attempt this, you have some balls, going that fast is a scary ride and lots of upkeep.

 

[2kwik4u]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I still think you will need 1200+ to the wheels to hit 7's and that is not an easy job.

I have no experience with the 80E's, do you know what percentage a 80e soaks up? I believe a stock truck loses 23% if I am not mistaken? Also what type of rear are we talking about to run 7's? A fab9? ($$$$$$) a 9"? (soaks up even more power) 12 bolt? (cheaper and doesn't soak up as much power yet not as durable as a 9")?

There are stock suspension 10" tire ls1's running 7's and they amaze me just because of the stock suspension and the small tire. To see that out of a v6 truck would be even more impressive, unfortunatlly I think we will see a race truck before we see a truck with any stock parts. That is just my opinion.

Good luck to those who are going to attempt this, you have some balls, going that fast is a scary ride and lots of upkeep.

Yea 1200hp is close I think.

I don't have exact numbers on the 80E, but have watched Jeremy make runs right after the 80E that were within a few tenths of his best with no change to tune or other parts on the truck. SO if a mid-low 12's truck is running near the same, I have to think there isn't much loss there.

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Because the owner of the truck uses it as an income source, and very very few people know the real number

ahhh yes.. thats a damn good reason :tup:

 

[ed hess]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

3650lbs
7.99 et

you need 1414 hp at flywheel.

again its not the hp thats the issue its being able to leave with more.

fwiw i remember the hp loss with a 400 vs 700. same bs. i saw no difference.

 

[JSM]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

3650lbs
7.99 et

you need 1414 hp at flywheel.

again its not the hp thats the issue its being able to leave with more.

fwiw i remember the hp loss with a 400 vs 700. same bs. i saw no difference.

Ed is dead on here, traction becomes a limit. I think both ed and robert are pushing 1200hp anyways currently, but I know robert could leave with more than ~5psi boost.

It still amazes me the misconception people have about 80e or 400. 80e is a 400 with OD.

Now, would a powerglide be more efficient, probably. And if I was to build a 7.5 truck I would go PG. Your not going to use OD in a setup like that anyways and you won't be driving a 7.5 truck on the street either.

 

[420]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I don't know that a 4L80E will hold 1400+ hp and, more importantly, the torque that comes with it. I think you will see someone with a 400 or a glide get there first.

 

[Daron]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I don't know that a 4L80E will hold 1400+ hp and, more importantly, the torque that comes with it.

I think thats the key here. No one "knows" a whole lot.

 

[warmpancakes]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I think thats the key here. No one "knows" a whole lot.

I know a 4l80e will not support 1350 WHP in a 96 impalla ss with slicks we we breaking the case

 

[420]

Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Glide or go home at that point, I guess. Or Lenco