Which torque converter for 80e

[Beavis]

Which one? There are so many to choose from....
Coan, persion, neil chance, ptc, pro torque, hughs, ect...
I am looking for the best bang for the buck but not trying to be a cheap ass in the process. It will mostly be for sreet use and some track use but i do like to beat the shit out it from light to light. 3000 stall is what i'm thinking for it as its stock with a 20G-12cm and supporting mods. After the trans is set I'll start planning the motor.

Please chime for your opions and thoughts for me (and others possibly)

 

[syclone0209]

Re: Which torque converter for 80e

everyone seems to be happy with precision or yank. heard good about coan but not first hand.

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

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How much "buck" are you talking about?

I got a billet unit from John Waller for about $875 shipped. Very happy - my tranny builder here in the UK even commented on it saying it looked like a good unit. I think it was billet and I sasked for 2800stall.

 

[JSM]

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I have used/been involved with Coan, Yank, and PTC. Coan I would say is closest to stock they drive nice and smooth even with a higher stall. I have a yank along with Hardman, we are both happy with them. Order to on the doorstep was like a week. T-Will aka ls1 parted out sy had a PTC, it is more racey IMO, around town driving you know its a high stall.

If I bought another I would buy a yank, not that the other 2 is anything wrong.

 

[NecroWolf]

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circle d just released a billet convertor that will lock up under a 1000hp load

 

[1madgumby]

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This is the one I have works great. I did not pay what Scott is asking eather. I did buy it from Scott though. O matches the teal also. lol..


http://www.detroitturbo.com/cart/product_info.php?products_id=163

 

[It's just a six]

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http://www.circledspecialties.com/Converter Pages/4L80-III.html

 

[Try Me]

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I have a Hughes 3500 stall that worked really good behind my 4.3 and even better with the 6.0. It is only a single disc lockup and I dont lock it under WOT.

 

[Nitrous]

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CircleD, when you call ask for Chris. He built my 3000 stall converter for the Syclone and it's been great so far. I bet he'd give you a discount if you tell him Lance (Nitrous) from Sy/Ty and LS1Truck.com sent you. The great thing about their converter is that if you want to restall it there's no charge if you send it to him. I've been through his shop and they do everything in house. You can't go wrong with these guys.......................................:tup:

 

[turbodig]

Re: Which torque converter for 80e

Which one? There are so many to choose from....
Coan, persion, neil chance, ptc, pro torque, hughs, ect...
I am looking for the best bang for the buck but not trying to be a cheap ass in the process. It will mostly be for sreet use and some track use but i do like to beat the shit out it from light to light. 3000 stall is what i'm thinking for it as its stock with a 20G-12cm and supporting mods. After the trans is set I'll start planning the motor.

Please chime for your opions and thoughts for me (and others possibly)

Considering that turbo, I would get something in the 2600-2800 stall range, from either TCS, Specrite, or on the cheaper end, Midwest. I'd also get the largest trans cooler you can find, and install that at the same time.

You're not going to run a whole lotta HP, so spending big $ on a converter doesn't make sense. Odds are, your trans will die before the converter does, sending junk into the converter such that you'll have to have it freshened up anyway.

$800+ for a converter is just crazy, IMO. I don't care what tranny it's going into.

 

[Nitrous]

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$800+ for a converter is just crazy, IMO. I don't care what tranny it's going into.

I'm running a $325.00 3200 Dacco performance stall converter behind my LS6 w/4L60E and it's been great! I was told it would make a great X-mas tree stand when I bought it but I'm putting out 430 plus HP to the rear wheels on engine and the truck weighs 5000#. I can run consistant low 12's and it's hanging tight. So I can agree with Turbodig on his comment.

 

[Beavis]

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Considering that turbo, I would get something in the 2600-2800 stall range, from either TCS, Specrite, or on the cheaper end, Midwest. I'd also get the largest trans cooler you can find, and install that at the same time.

You're not going to run a whole lotta HP, so spending big $ on a converter doesn't make sense. Odds are, your trans will die before the converter does, sending junk into the converter such that you'll have to have it freshened up anyway.

$800+ for a converter is just crazy, IMO. I don't care what tranny it's going into.

Not sure if it matters much, but i would hope the trans don't break as it's a Blake built unit. My hope was to just buy it once and be done. My future goal is a good build (4 bolt, forged rods, pistons and good l35 heads and hopefully a GT35R - not going too crazy on the motor) so I want a good converter that will last and not have to replace it. I did talk to persion and they said they can restall once for free (in 2 year period) and freshen up and rebuild as I wish (charge of coarse).

Keep the ideas coming cause this is great info and will probably others too..:tup:

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

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minus the vortecs, that's the same build as mine, 4L80e included.

Talk to john Waller about your TC. higher than around 2800 you start to suffer on the street.

Dig - I thought 800 was the ballpark figure for a decent converter but you wouldn't pay that. How did uyou manage to circumvent that price?

 

[JSM]

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I run a 3400, so does hardman and jeremy also. Its a little off from stock but if I gave you keys and said drive you would probably not even notice.

Not to say everybody should run that stall.

700 convertors can be had a lot cheaper. I know 3-4 yrs ago when we did Jeremy's 80e only a few options existed and they were all over 1g. Today 800+ seems to be magic #, next year be maybe 700?

Although I agree with Dig the $900 I spent on my convertor is crazy, that is what is being charged by almost all the manufactures at the time ~2 yrs ago now. I didn't want to chance a 5k+ trans on a $300 convertor either.

I would be curious what the actual cost is. I know the billet covers cost money to make, not sure what the stuff inside cost + labor. Maybe we are all in the wrong market.

 

[MRKING]

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if you can show me a good 3k stall for what your willing to pay , i will buy you a beer at nats .

i didnt like the price of my coan , but there were slim options .

 

[jwaller]

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I sell billet converters for 80E. pm me the build sheet and I can help you out.

 

[Beavis]

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After talking to Coan, Yank and Precision, it seems as they all start off with a stock converter and cut it up.
From what I was told by the three of them, the cover and most of the internals are upgraded with their specific parts.
Also I learned that the ones that are single disk lock up can't be locked at WOT and take it repeatedly.
They are designed for lock up in cruise mode only (steady freeway and street cruising). Precision said their 3 and 5 disk ($60 differeance) can be locked at WOT up to 1600hp which sounds really good to me.
Warrenties are good on Yank (1 yr and 1 free restall within 6 mo.) and Precision (2 yr and 1 free restall within 2 yrs) while Coan was only 90 days.
The cut, clean, r & r and restall was compairable between all of them.

Might call some more tomorrow but it looks like Precision is in the lead.

Jeff, you said the PTC was too racey. what did you mean by that? I was thinking about calling them to because their web site is limited on info.

 

[JSM]

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Jeff, you said the PTC was too racey. what did you mean by that? I was thinking about calling them to because their web site is limited on info.

I said PTC but I should have said precision. No personal experience with PTC.

The precision does have the muti clutch lockup.

To me and I know Jeremy felt the same the precision basically didn't move until you got near stall speed. Where my yank, jeremy's coan drive almost like a stocker, yet when you put power to it stalls where you want. If you not in a hurry at nats I am sure myself and Jeremy can take you for a ride/drive so you can feel how smooth they are even though we both stall around 3400.

When I ordered mine I talked to yank about the WOT lockup and they all agree it will kill the convertor quicker. Jeremy's coan lasted about 3 years of pure abuse.

What yank said those is the efficiency near WOT will be close to 1:1 anyways so lockup shouldn't be needed.

Not saying I agree 100% with this I think it makes a difference. For example Jeremy's sy with stock motor and turbo just doesn't like to spin very fast so we lock up the convertor. In fact at one point going down truck we shift and lock things up so quick the rpm drops to 2800 rpm, well below his stall speed for launch. What it does for his truck is load it and take advantage of the huge torque his stock motor makes and keeps it turning slow, loads it up boost moves up to 26psi or so and the truck moves on out.

Now a vortec headed motor, built motor etc that spins and makes peak power higher up the curve doesn't need nor would you want to shift early, lockup and bring rpm down to 2800. In that case lockup is not as important.

My truck I have yet to lockup, still tuning and trying to make it work.

So I guess it depends what your looking to do, how you plan to drive it, are you planning to get every last .05 seconds of et out of it.

I looked at the circle D website other day and they look nice, offer free restall I believe and have a nice lockup rated for 1600hp or so also.

I have heard good things about neal chance also.

Not bashing or saying any convertor better than the other just they are a bit different from Jeff's view point. Your opinion my vary.

 

[Beavis]

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Ya thats pretty much what Yank told me to. Talked to Circle D (pretty impressed with them and they even tell some of their secrets that others won't) and they offer a Wot lockup too, but you'll pay for it. Also talked to PTC and they seemed pretty good with a little cheaper price. They all seem to be pretty good really, but if I want the WOT lock up, it looks like Presicion or Circ D. Neil Chance doesn't make a conv for a 80 or 700 as they told me "we don't make lockups because they fail and we won't put our name on a failing peice". He did recomend Continental converters. Will call them tomorrow.
The more I call the more I learn and the more it seems to confuse me.
Anybody else got any advice or opinions they want to offer up, PLEASE chime in.

 

[J-bird]

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What do you guys think of this converter on e-bay?

I'm getting to the point where I'll need the tc soon. I'm not trying to be a cheap a$$, but would like to get a converter that will hold up.

Also what stall speed should I run with the build below:

Stock block
4 bolt mains
eagle rods
je pistons 30 over
ported vortecs with big valves
412 cam
rpm 58mm TB
stock manifolds
and I will be running a precision turbo 6776RSP turbo (DBB)

Thanks,

Jeremy Franke