Will I make it to nats or not?

bizkit

bonofied SyTy junkie
Well I've been struggling with a misfire on my Ty for a couple weeks now and can't figure it out. It's not a dead miss and is erratic and is worse when the Ty is warm, and does not go away at higher rpm's though you don't notice any driveablility problems on the highway.

New plugs, wires, cap, rotor, tried two different HEI modules, 3 different coils, and purged the injectors with Wynns VIC injector/top end cleaner. All the plugs I pulled out looked exactly the same, a nice brown color. What is really weird is that it gets worse when I put on a MSD blaster coil. So does that mean the MSD puts out less energy than the stock coil and makes the miss worse, or does it put out more energy and arc out somewhere that much more to make the miss worse? On tunerpro the vaccuum is at 17 - 18 Hg at idle, and you can watch the O2 mv go rich whenever you hear it missfire.

Im grabbing at straws now. Tomorrow night I will try swapping in the MAP sensor from my S-10, and try to track down which plug is misfiring using a timing light by looking for an erratic light signal.

From inside the cab all you notice is that at idle (redlights etc) the truck wants to die when going into gear or sitting still for awhile. Under load for example a boost launch, it's hard to notice anything is wrong. You notice it the most when the truck is idling and you get out and lean down to listen to the exhaust at the tail pipe.

Any other ideas on what to check next? I don't want to let this stop me from going to Nats, but I'm just not sure if I should go that far with a truck that's not 100%. The best thing would be to put it on an oscilloscope at a dealership to check all the plug wires/injectors at once and graph it all out, but there aren't any in town anymore. :(
What do you guys think?

I've also played with the fuel pressure, changing it from 30 to 60 psi and it made no difference. I've had it and it is right now set at 50 psi.
 

CAMSTY

SyTy Obsessed
Re: Will I make it to nats or not?

I wish I could offer up some helpful insight........I got nothing.

Hopefully you other thread offer some helpful info.
 

Sawdoff350

SpdDmon
Re: Will I make it to nats or not?

dude that sounds like what happened to me on my ty. first the truck started missing i just had changed all the plugs, wires, caps, rotors to msd and a blaster coil as well i couldnt figure out what was going wrong then one day i went to go start the truck and it wouldnt start .. so we tried a few things and then tried the distributor . luckily my dad had one out of his 91 syclone cause he replaced his with a aftermarket one we installed it in my ty and the truck was running again . had to re time it with a timing gun but we got it running like new. turns out there was a little o-ring that broke off of the top of the distibutor that gave a rough idle and eventually fell off making the truck not start .... i dunno its a long shot but maybe you are having the same problem i had with mine a while back .. hope this helps
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TurboTony

Active member
Re: Will I make it to nats or not?

First off don't bother with the Map from your sonoma unless it is boosted as well. Most maps are one bar, the syty map is two bar ( measures boost ). If you knew that already I apologize.

Sounds to me like a bit of a vacuum leak, usually at the intake. Try spraying some carb cleaner or brake clean around the intake gasket to the heads. If you notice the idle pick up or drop thats the problem.

Besides, you have to bring 777 back to Edmonton, I miss it :oops:

HTH

Tony
 

bizkit

bonofied SyTy junkie
Re: Will I make it to nats or not?

Well of course my plans of getting off work early to thrash on the Typhoon didn't pan out. I worked until 8 pm, got home and started into it. Tonight I borrowed a timing light so I was playing with that. First off I didnt' think it was timed at 0' anymore for some reason because with the light on plug wire #1 the 0 mark was wayyyy off on the very bottom of the pulley, even though I have checked it before (over a year ago) and it used to be at 0' Bottom line after messing around all night I think my balancer has spun a bit. I marked it now so if it moves again I will be able to see it better. For some reason, it seems the timing was retarded a few degrees and when I advanced it back to what I think is 0' the erratic misfire has all but dissappeared. The truck idles a lot better now and when put in 'drive' and 'reverse' while brake torqueing a bit everything seems good. I never took it out because it's pouring rain here. I'll go for a quick rip after work tomorrow and run tunerpro for a bit just for peace of mind, but I think I can safely say: :woot:

TurboTony First off don't bother with the Map from your sonoma unless it is boosted as well. Most maps are one bar, the syty map is two bar ( measures boost ). If you knew that already I apologize.

Thanks for the reminder Tony, I did know that but it defineately missed my mind when I was thinking of swapping parts around. Thanks for showing me up :oops: I will also throw some brake cleaner around the intake/heads after work tomorrow. Wouldn't surprise me at all to have a small vac leak though I would expect it to be at the throttle body shaft which seems to be very common.

I'll be hitting the highway tomorrow night and go halfway to my old hometown, then touchdown in Edmonton early Friday afternoon I hope.

See you at Nats! :cheers:
 
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