Solution for steering slop? - Page 4 - SyTy/SGT

whiteTy1214 · 04-14-2012, 10:59 AM

Great post! Went and checked my upper steering shaft. Found lots of play side/side & up/down.
I will be getting this repaired very soon. Thanks for the part numbers!
Hopefully this is a great improvement.

***Quickstop [UK]*** · 04-14-2012, 12:18 PM

Where does this bearing go? What is involved in replacing it?

DanenGraham · 04-14-2012, 12:59 PM

Remove the steering shaft, and its right there going into the firewall. Someone in this thread said it should take 2min to install once the steering shaft is removed.

***Quickstop [UK]*** · 04-14-2012, 02:34 PM

Cool - found it. Thanks!

Throws · 04-14-2012, 06:47 PM

How long does it take to get the steering shaft removed?

-P

***Quickstop [UK]*** · 04-14-2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Throws

How long does it take to get the steering shaft removed?

-P

If you're good, 3 min. 2 min to undo the bolt and then 1 min to hammer/lever the shaft away.

A screwdriver/rod in the holes for the bolt works wonders plus WD40 on the shaft.

DanenGraham · 04-14-2012, 07:56 PM

It took me over an hour to get the steering shaft out of mine. But the slip joint was ceased up and I had to drop the box. But It should be easier than that.

Damian · 04-14-2012, 10:53 PM

I was done in about 10 minutes. It takes longer to take the wheel off and then put it back on. I should have taken pics along the way. Just remember how the retaining ring goes in. The old "bearing" isn't even a bearing, it's just there for a reference than anything else.

Sadly though, this did not help me. I still have shaft play. I have new everything now and I still have it. I got the ZQ8 steering box and I wonder if I need to adjust it some? It only has about 200 miles on it so far. The steering shaft didn't have much play before the new bearing. The shaft itself moves with the steering wheel but the pitman arm doesn't move, hence the steering slop. Any ideas?

DanenGraham · 04-14-2012, 11:18 PM

Don't adjust the box. People have had it lock up while driving after the adjusted them.

Damian · 04-15-2012, 12:29 AM

I don't know what else to do. I have the same amount of slop as I did with my old steering box.

Damian · 04-16-2012, 07:58 PM

Im leaning towards my steering box being bad. Has anyone else got a bad box from AutoZone?

If I have the engine off, and I turn the steering wheel back and forth, it sounds like there is air in the system, but I look at the fluid, and there isnt any in there. Ive been driving around with this steering box for awhile now and if there was any in there, it should ealily be gone by now.

If I watch the steering shaft where it connects to the box and turn the steering wheel back and forth, I can see the shaft moving and all, but the wheels dont budge until I go past the slop.

Anything I should try before I have to pull this thing out again?

RealFastV6 · 04-16-2012, 08:25 PM

Sorry to hear that wasn't the fix. I posted somewhere else (I thought it was here but not) the way to find out if you need to do this is just grab the top of your steering shaft and see if it moves (perpendicular to the shaft).

Seems obvious I guess if you can see that the steering shaft moving into the box and the pitman arm isn't moving in kind that it's the box itself.

Damian · 04-16-2012, 08:49 PM

I might try and tighten down on the allen screw a hair and see if that helps anything. I dont mind puting money into this truck if it fixes the problem, but Im not getting anywhere with this steering slop. Replacing everything so far and 2 alignment jobs so far and it barely did anything for me.

Damian · 04-17-2012, 02:45 AM

A stupid request/question, can someone take a picture of the steering box hydraulic lines or tell me which lines go where? Im pretty sure the fittings only go one way but I just want to double check.

SYO237 · 05-04-2012, 09:35 PM

Figured Id add to this thread some reference pics of the new adapter and bushing. I didnt realize that the stock setup didnt actually have a bearing, but just an adapter. You can see the differences between the orig and new setup (size, rubber ring doesnt get reused). The new adapter has a larger inner diameter than the stocker, which is where the bearing comes into play to hold the shaft in place.

You have to push the bearing into the new adapter and the bearing does face AWAY from the firewall when installed, which I figured out really quickly when the adapter wouldnt go into the shaft housing the other way.

I havent had a chance to drive the truck yet, but the wheel does feel tighter than before. Very easy upgrade, took about 15 minutes total.

04-14-2012, 10:59 AM	#46
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04-14-2012, 12:18 PM	#47
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DanenGraham Big in the rear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lee's Summit MO Age: 28 Posts: 1,633 iTrader: 10 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? Remove the steering shaft, and its right there going into the firewall. Someone in this thread said it should take 2min to install once the steering shaft is removed. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Syclone #1736 50#injectors, Vortecs, 412, Eagle H's, SRP, 60-1Dbb RPM kit w/ITS minigate, 3bar, RPM coilovers and control arms, CBR brake bracket w/13" rotors V6 PART OUT, SELLING EVERTYHING LISTED

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04-14-2012, 07:56 PM	#52
DanenGraham Big in the rear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lee's Summit MO Age: 28 Posts: 1,633 iTrader: 10 / 100%	It took me over an hour to get the steering shaft out of mine. But the slip joint was ceased up and I had to drop the box. But It should be easier than that. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Syclone #1736 50#injectors, Vortecs, 412, Eagle H's, SRP, 60-1Dbb RPM kit w/ITS minigate, 3bar, RPM coilovers and control arms, CBR brake bracket w/13" rotors V6 PART OUT, SELLING EVERTYHING LISTED

04-14-2012, 10:53 PM	#53
Damian Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 466 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? I was done in about 10 minutes. It takes longer to take the wheel off and then put it back on. I should have taken pics along the way. Just remember how the retaining ring goes in. The old "bearing" isn't even a bearing, it's just there for a reference than anything else. Sadly though, this did not help me. I still have shaft play. I have new everything now and I still have it. I got the ZQ8 steering box and I wonder if I need to adjust it some? It only has about 200 miles on it so far. The steering shaft didn't have much play before the new bearing. The shaft itself moves with the steering wheel but the pitman arm doesn't move, hence the steering slop. Any ideas? __________________ 93 Typhoon #1376 "Money Pit"

04-14-2012, 11:18 PM	#54
DanenGraham Big in the rear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lee's Summit MO Age: 28 Posts: 1,633 iTrader: 10 / 100%	Don't adjust the box. People have had it lock up while driving after the adjusted them. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Syclone #1736 50#injectors, Vortecs, 412, Eagle H's, SRP, 60-1Dbb RPM kit w/ITS minigate, 3bar, RPM coilovers and control arms, CBR brake bracket w/13" rotors V6 PART OUT, SELLING EVERTYHING LISTED

04-15-2012, 12:29 AM	#55
Damian Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 466 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? I don't know what else to do. I have the same amount of slop as I did with my old steering box. __________________ 93 Typhoon #1376 "Money Pit"

04-16-2012, 07:58 PM	#56
Damian Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 466 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? Im leaning towards my steering box being bad. Has anyone else got a bad box from AutoZone? If I have the engine off, and I turn the steering wheel back and forth, it sounds like there is air in the system, but I look at the fluid, and there isnt any in there. Ive been driving around with this steering box for awhile now and if there was any in there, it should ealily be gone by now. If I watch the steering shaft where it connects to the box and turn the steering wheel back and forth, I can see the shaft moving and all, but the wheels dont budge until I go past the slop. Anything I should try before I have to pull this thing out again? __________________ 93 Typhoon #1376 "Money Pit"

04-16-2012, 08:25 PM	#57
RealFastV6 Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: CT Posts: 585 iTrader: 8 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? Sorry to hear that wasn't the fix. I posted somewhere else (I thought it was here but not) the way to find out if you need to do this is just grab the top of your steering shaft and see if it moves (perpendicular to the shaft). Seems obvious I guess if you can see that the steering shaft moving into the box and the pitman arm isn't moving in kind that it's the box itself. __________________ Justin "RealFastV6" 1991 GMC Syclone 2012 F150 FX4 EcoTTV6 Last edited by RealFastV6; 05-10-2012 at 07:11 AM.

04-16-2012, 08:49 PM	#58
Damian Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 466 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? I might try and tighten down on the allen screw a hair and see if that helps anything. I dont mind puting money into this truck if it fixes the problem, but Im not getting anywhere with this steering slop. Replacing everything so far and 2 alignment jobs so far and it barely did anything for me. __________________ 93 Typhoon #1376 "Money Pit"

04-17-2012, 02:45 AM	#59
Damian Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 466 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Solution for steering slop? A stupid request/question, can someone take a picture of the steering box hydraulic lines or tell me which lines go where? Im pretty sure the fittings only go one way but I just want to double check. __________________ 93 Typhoon #1376 "Money Pit"

05-04-2012, 09:35 PM	#60
SYO237 2012 Shindig AutoX King Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Central FL Posts: 12,804 iTrader: 39 / 100% '91 GMC Syclone	Re: Solution for steering slop? Figured Id add to this thread some reference pics of the new adapter and bushing. I didnt realize that the stock setup didnt actually have a bearing, but just an adapter. You can see the differences between the orig and new setup (size, rubber ring doesnt get reused). The new adapter has a larger inner diameter than the stocker, which is where the bearing comes into play to hold the shaft in place. You have to push the bearing into the new adapter and the bearing does face AWAY from the firewall when installed, which I figured out really quickly when the adapter wouldnt go into the shaft housing the other way. I havent had a chance to drive the truck yet, but the wheel does feel tighter than before. Very easy upgrade, took about 15 minutes total. Attached Images __________________ adam 91 Syclone #237 l 11 Chevy HHR LT l 2012 2LT/45th Anniversary Camaro l ex-Typhoons/SGT #1011, #366, #1181, #299 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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