Changes for 2012 - Page 7 - SyTy/SGT

qbnkiller · 02-14-2012, 01:15 PM

the torque down there is pretty brutal...I was just being nice to the bottom-end (for now)!

e95 Ty · 02-14-2012, 04:38 PM

You just wanted to see that 1000hp didn't you.....

jpalmer · 02-14-2012, 09:34 PM

Is that the best you could do....

1madgumby · 02-14-2012, 10:05 PM

V8 is the way to go.....

***Quickstop [UK]*** · 02-15-2012, 02:41 AM

At what HP does the awd become redundant and you start lifting the front end? Just curious as Ghettosled's truck does that but I have no clue as to the power it makes.

Impressive, Alex. Looking forward to some track video!

Windedv6 · 02-15-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickstop [UK]

At what HP does the wad become redundant and you start lifting the front end? Just curious as Ghettosled's truck does that but I have no clue as to the power it makes.

Impressive, Alex. Looking forward to some track video!

Ghettosled's truck is 2WD. He was probably in the 1,000 hp range at the tires...1,200 hp range on the motor. A 2WD with a turbo 400 trans will be about 20 -22.5% loss from motor hp to hp at the tires. A turbo 350 trans should be a little less than 20%. Add at least 5% more loss going through our AWD setup vs 2WD.
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A 1,000 hp with a turbo 400 should put about 725-750 hp to the wheels in our AWD Platform. A chassis dyno also can vary the amount of loss depending on how the power is loaded with regards to the convertor, tires and gearing.

john

BMFB · 02-15-2012, 08:58 AM

also its hard to just uncontrollably lift the front tires off the ground, the sled I imagine has a bit of work done to the suspension to help transfer the weight to the rear end. When your drag racing you want to set your stuff up so that it transfers weight to your drive tires for traction, so he has his 2wd setup to transfer all the weight to the rear, but with an awd setup you want to try to keep it more balanced and not let it transfer as much to the rear so that your front wheels are still helping you go forward. You could put serious power to the ground and keep it flat, or if you want you can lift your front tires with surprisingly little power to get 100% of your weight over the ass of it.

Wheelies are funner though, and unfortunately 2wd is a better way to go down the track

5678TA · 02-16-2012, 04:13 AM

good f-ing lord. and i bet that's only the 200cc Pro1's.

TYTILIDIE · 03-03-2012, 09:28 AM

What kind of 1/4 times are you looking for with this set up?

qbnkiller · 03-03-2012, 10:38 AM

Don't know...should be easy 9's though. We'll see how everything else holds up.

jpalmer · 03-03-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbnkiller

Don't know...should be easy 9's though. We'll see how everything else holds up.

As long as there are no mis-shifts. I can't wait to see this in the hole. Then you can send me some measurements

It's just a six · 03-03-2012, 12:51 PM

qbnkiller

Goodluck racing it @ the track!

I like that velosity stack for the turbo!
Who makes it & how much was that piece?

Thanks
Ghettosleds old engine was sold a long time ago & the person who bought it installed larger turbos on it & IIRC, Mike had told me it made 1400 HP.

I am not sure if Mike ever posted all of the specs of that old engine?
Maybe he could chime in here?

Beavis · 03-03-2012, 01:35 PM

Think the rear-end and t-case will hold?

HARMON · 03-03-2012, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qbnkiller

Don't know...should be easy 9's though. We'll see how everything else holds up.

pfffff.....9's in the 1/8th maybe

Revolution · 05-17-2012, 12:48 AM

Great now I gotta build something... grumble.. What's the latest Alex?

02-14-2012, 01:15 PM	#91
qbnkiller ...redefining "can't" Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 2,388 iTrader: 29 / 100% '93 GMC Typhoon	Re: Changes for 2012 the torque down there is pretty brutal...I was just being nice to the bottom-end (for now)!

02-14-2012, 04:38 PM	#92
e95 Ty Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Area Age: 37 Posts: 347 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Re: Changes for 2012 You just wanted to see that 1000hp didn't you.....

02-14-2012, 09:34 PM	#93
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02-15-2012, 08:58 AM	#97
BMFB Not to scale Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Flint, MI Posts: 1,304 iTrader: 6 / 100%	Re: Changes for 2012 also its hard to just uncontrollably lift the front tires off the ground, the sled I imagine has a bit of work done to the suspension to help transfer the weight to the rear end. When your drag racing you want to set your stuff up so that it transfers weight to your drive tires for traction, so he has his 2wd setup to transfer all the weight to the rear, but with an awd setup you want to try to keep it more balanced and not let it transfer as much to the rear so that your front wheels are still helping you go forward. You could put serious power to the ground and keep it flat, or if you want you can lift your front tires with surprisingly little power to get 100% of your weight over the ass of it. Wheelies are funner though, and unfortunately 2wd is a better way to go down the track

02-16-2012, 04:13 AM	#98
5678TA Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 542 iTrader: 4 / 100%	Re: Changes for 2012 good f-ing lord. and i bet that's only the 200cc Pro1's. __________________ '93 Typhoon Blk/Blk #1190 - half stock - SOLD '02 Lexus IS300 - all show, no go.....yet

03-03-2012, 09:28 AM	#99
TYTILIDIE METH HEAD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 37 Posts: 8,984 iTrader: 32 / 100% '92 GMC Typhoon	Re: Changes for 2012 What kind of 1/4 times are you looking for with this set up? __________________ Mike 92 TY#0073 93 TY#0965-SOLD! 2007 Trailblazer SS - Wife's new ride

03-03-2012, 10:38 AM	#100
qbnkiller ...redefining "can't" Join Date: Jan 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 2,388 iTrader: 29 / 100% '93 GMC Typhoon	Re: Changes for 2012 Don't know...should be easy 9's though. We'll see how everything else holds up.

03-03-2012, 12:51 PM	#102
It's just a six Super Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,341 iTrader: 7 / 100%	Re: Changes for 2012 qbnkiller Goodluck racing it @ the track! I like that velosity stack for the turbo! Who makes it & how much was that piece? Thanks Ghettosleds old engine was sold a long time ago & the person who bought it installed larger turbos on it & IIRC, Mike had told me it made 1400 HP. I am not sure if Mike ever posted all of the specs of that old engine? Maybe he could chime in here? __________________ 7.609 1/8,, 12.08 1/4 ,Syclone 12 port aluminum headed, turbocharged ,EFI inline 6 cylinder. Someday To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by It's just a six; 03-03-2012 at 04:27 PM.

03-03-2012, 01:35 PM	#103
Beavis Still plays with trucks Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Farmington MI Age: 11 Posts: 2,332 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Re: Changes for 2012 Think the rear-end and t-case will hold? __________________ Shawn McGill '92 TYPHOON #1613 Black/Black "Life is all about ass; you're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one." To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-17-2012, 12:48 AM	#105
Revolution Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Las Vegas ,NV Age: 34 Posts: 73 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Re: Changes for 2012 Great now I gotta build something... grumble.. What's the latest Alex?

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