Alky tank question

Don W.

Don W.

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Does anyone make, or know a member who makes, an alky tank with a legit lid? Infineon finally saw me filling the alky tank and is now asking me to get a "real" tank for the alky. Meaning a tank that has a fuel cell type of lid/fill hole.

I'm sure I can find someone on this end to custom make me something but if someone here is already doing a tank I thought I'd at least ask.

TIA
 
AZtyphoon

AZtyphoon

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Re: Alky tank question

That's ridiculous. By that same mentality, you would need a fuel cell for your windshield fluid! :rotf:

Seriously though, I doubt that's in the NHRA rule book. I say screw the special container and fill it up at home. They can't remember you next time can they. :dunno:
 
Don W.

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: Alky tank question

AZtyphoon said:
That's ridiculous. By that same mentality, you would need a fuel cell for your windshield fluid! :rotf:

Well not really but it is kinda picky.

Seriously though, I doubt that's in the NHRA rule book. I say screw the special container and fill it up at home. They can't remember you next time can they. :dunno:
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I have the rule book so will check and yes, they know me and that Syclone. I be one of the regulars.
 
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JuStBlAzIN

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Re: Alky tank question

just fill it up at home. or take it in a bottle..and make it look like you are poring in water.
 
Tooky

Tooky

Serious about performance
Re: Alky tank question

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Your "Water Injection system" shouldnt be a problem. ;) What do the Buick GNs at your track do?
 
turbodig

turbodig

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Re: Alky tank question

Don W. said:
Does anyone make, or know a member who makes, an alky tank with a legit lid? Infineon finally saw me filling the alky tank and is now asking me to get a "real" tank for the alky. Meaning a tank that has a fuel cell type of lid/fill hole.

I'm sure I can find someone on this end to custom make me something but if someone here is already doing a tank I thought I'd at least ask.

TIA
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Use the windshield wash bottle... fill with Methanol... add blue food coloring.
Dogs don't know it's not bacon!

I am kinda surprised this doesn't get flagged in more places... fuel in non-approved cells is a no-no with the NHRA.

There's a certain % of water you can add, thereby making it "Not a fuel". Don't remember what it is, offhand.

Bottom line, though, whatever the track deems as "appropriate", is. They can be more restrictive than the NHRA, if they want.
 
Don W.

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: Alky tank question

420 said:
I have a tank like this:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2D290121&N=700+4294925239+4294839036+400304+4294920243+115&autoview=sku

in the bed that I use for my Alky. Alkycontrol.com set it up with all brass fittings, and it works great :)
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Would prefer to not drill holes in the bed but this may be the route I take. I'm gonna look into having a tank built. I know some local folks, it'll just be a matter of time and money. I wuz hopping for something I could leave in the engine compartment. I could have "cheated" as been mentioned but now that they know it would be a waste of time. Only took them a year to catch me so I guess I'm ahead of the game.:lol:
 
H-TOWN-TYPHOON

H-TOWN-TYPHOON

You're killin' me, Smalls
Re: Alky tank question

When you have your tank built, will it be plastic lined? I have been told a few times that methanol is reactive with aluminium.
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
Re: Alky tank question

H-TOWN-TYPHOON said:
When you have your tank built, will it be plastic lined? I have been told a few times that methanol is reactive with aluminium.
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Yes it is reactive.
 
Don W.

Don W.

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Re: Alky tank question

TwinTurboV8Ty said:
Yes it is reactive.
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I don't doubt you, I've heard this before and it's a good point. On the other hand I've just started buying my Methanol for a guy who runs a 9 sec Camaro on Methanol and his tank is alum. So when we say "reactive" what happens?
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
Re: Alky tank question

I will agree it won't instantly explode or corrode a hole inside. I am meeting with the chemist here at work in a few hours I will ask him.
 
Don W.

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: Alky tank question

Not saying I'm gonna do this but I wonder what happens if I just seal off the existing lid and install an "approved" lid in my existing tank?
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
Re: Alky tank question

Chemist guy at work and I talked about it. He didn't know of why chemically it would corode, but we did end up with conclusion that the chassis is ground that it would speed things up in terms of corrosion.

What I did find very funny though is, he went back into the cabinet and had a bottle of 99% ethanol in an aluminum jar from the supplier. Not anodized either, we checked.

Maybe someone knows more as to why or even if it does corrode aluminum then we were able to think about.
 
4C FED

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Re: Alky tank question

TwinTurboV8Ty said:
Chemist guy at work and I talked about it. He didn't know of why chemically it would corode, but we did end up with conclusion that the chassis is ground that it would speed things up in terms of corrosion.

What I did find very funny though is, he went back into the cabinet and had a bottle of 99% ethanol in an aluminum jar from the supplier. Not anodized either, we checked.

Maybe someone knows more as to why or even if it does corrode aluminum then we were able to think about.
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This is for propeller heads..... http://www.virginia.edu/cese/people/kelly.html
The short of it from what little I read is that the corrosion is caused from impurities in the methanol.
 
turbodig

turbodig

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Re: Alky tank question

4C FED said:
This is for propeller heads..... http://www.virginia.edu/cese/people/kelly.html
The short of it from what little I read is that the corrosion is caused from impurities in the methanol.
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.... particularly, the acids. Put acid and even a mildly active metal together, and what do you get? A battery.

Since you'd never get an entirely acid-free methanol in the wild, it's going to pit aluminum.

Interesting though, was that sufficient quantities of water actually slowed the pitting.

Would have been interesting if they would have gone into the effects of surface treatments on the rate of corrosion/pitting.
 
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