Bringing her back...

[gstacky]

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I took the rear wheels off so I could get to the brakes and rear axle seals, but the drums wouldn't come off. Normally, there is an adjuster screw you back off, which may be the big nut on the top of the backing plate. I'm not familiar with this style and the nuts wouldn't turn either direction with moderate force, so I'll be doing a little research to see how to loosen the adjusters. Hopefully tomorrow I can get the seals, wheel cylinders, shoes and hardware replaced and then put the drums back on Wednesday after having them machined.


That big nut is not your adjuster, the adjuster is at the bottom, and you probably won't be able to turn it anyways. Just get out a big hammer and start pounding the drum off. There is a ridge of rust on the inside of the drum that is holding it on.
By the way, is that your syclone rear axle? That looks like a 2wd rear axle, and that big nut is a pain to get off, it just holds the backing plate to the rear end housing with the two smaller ones at the bottom.

 

[The_Bronze]

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I took a look at the schematic for the brakes. It uses a normal bottom mounted adjuster so I will knock the rear metal plug out so that I can screw in the adjuster. I am putting new hardware on, but I still had no real desire to beat off the drum. I guess I have never seen a GM backing plate that didn't already have the adjuster hole punched out and figured the Sy might have some wierdness in it.

 

[warmpancakes]

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s10 diesels came with dual batterys as a otion the lh tray doesnt exist ive searched and searched and can find no mention

 

[TNPhoon]

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I like seeing the progress and how you are updating everytime something happens.
You have some dedication.
Rated this thread a 5-star. :tup:

 

[The_Bronze]

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Important obligations came up tonight (my daughter needed me to be her “horse”), so I didn’t get much time in the garage. I did get some progress and found both good and bad.

I needed to still get the brake drums off. Armed with the knowledge that the adjusters are behind the knockout in the standard location, I proceeded to gain access.
Here are the knock-outs on the bottom. You only have to remove the rear one, as that is where the adjuster is located. Removing both will leave you with 2 holes to fill and only 1 in the brake hardware box for each side.

I used a long punch and a hammer to beat it in. One side fell right in without effort. The other side needed a little more encouragement. You can tell from the next picture which one that one was. :rant: Once I had access to the adjuster I used a small screwdriver to go above the adjuster and push the adjuster stop lever out a little bit so that I could screw the adjuster IN. (Right side screws upwards and the Left side screws downwards) I used an adjusting tool, but a regular screwdriver works just as well. If you want to take a picture at the same time, you will need to borrow an extra hand or have a real nifty foot. The right screwdriver is pushing on the lever, but is angled down a little far due to the lack of another hand to hold it in the right position.

Here is a photo of the adjuster stop lever on the adjuster. You can see how just pushing it towards the wheel surface will disengage the stop and allow you to turn the adjuster inwards. The lever will allow you to turn the adjuster outwards without effort, so if you can turn it either way, you have a lever malfunction that will need to be addressed during reassembly.

Once the adjuster has been screwed in, the brakes will be released from the shoe. If the drums and shoes are smooth, they usually come off with just a bit of wiggling. When the shoes have big ridges like these did, you will have to really pull/beat or use the proper removal method (especially if you are reusing hardware). Brand new shoes, but didn’t spend the $$ for brake drum machining. You can see that the last brakes were worn to the rivets which trashed the drums and left groves so that the new pads could be ruined as well. I doubt these drums can be machined, but tomorrow will tell.

With the brakes visible, I didn’t want to get my hands dirty on this, so I went to my next project. Nothing getting rusty in there! Both of these brakes illustrate what will prevent your brakes from holding during a boost launch I guess. Thanks PO for that lesson!

I spend some time today trying to come up with a factory left battery tray since the 84-85 S10 diesel trucks were suppose to come with these. My labor guide stated labor for either or both batteries, so I will venture to say it was available. Neither dealer in my town had any information on the second battery tray. Only listed only 1 number from 82 to 87. With information, I started to work on other ideas. My Early Bronco already hates me for pulling this little black rig in front of the line for paint, so I stole one of the battery boxes to see how it would fit.

Not bad, but it was too big for the battery and it didn’t look OEM. I then had a moment of brilliance and remembered that the donor rig had one that I removed. I dug through all the junk and came up with it. Here I have marked where I need to cut it to make it fit. I’ll be adding a bottom brace to handle the inside edge, while the outside edge will bolt to the fender once I reweld the mounting tab on that side. I think this will not only work, but look relatively correct and with the proper hold-down. The white chalk outlines the necessary cuts. a couple of the cuts will require a lip to be made to maintain it's rigidity.

Enough for tonight. Tomorrow will be the brake removal, seal replacement, cleaning and reinstallation. Maybe once it is back on the ground I can replace the front brake hose and install the oil filter threaded insert to get an oil filter on it before the tape falls off and the grime gets into the engine.

 

[berzerker]

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keep it up !!!

 

[The Bronze]

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Today I was getting the Sy ready to deliver to the paint guy. Maybe I am anal, but I couldn't find the faith that it would be prepped as well if I did it. With those thoughts dooming the truck to eternal projectdom, I did the unthinkable- I dropped the 4 curtains, fired up the compressor and started sanding the truck! A new me? I gave it a 3 hours and here are some of the results:

I have worked out my combination with just a few more questions to research prior to placing the order. Which Meth kit (leaning towards devils own (but almost pulled the trigger on summit's site for a snow performance stage 2 unit while ordering parts for another project) and the feasibility of using my current multi chip and reprogram them all code 59 for different tunes.

Ordering tomorrow: vortecs, 412 cam, roller rockers, pte67dbb turbo, 3k stall. Also pondering cometic head gaskets on my fresh 500 mile short block, I guess I can find out what finish the machine shop uses.

I am excited to be getting on this and having it ready for the memorial day drags down south!

 

[The Bronze]

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I am prepping the inside of the fenders. I am planning on POR15 for the inner fender wells and factory black for the inside of the fenders, radiator support and bottom of the hood. I don't have the original parts, so I am not sure if the inner fenders were gloss or semi like the wheel wells. Any suggestions or comments on that plan?

 

[92 Ty 1173]

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I don't have an answer to your question,but holy crap, I wish I had that much ambition to get my truck done. Well I do but my wife and job only afford me so much garage time. Looks great man, keep it up.

 

[The_Bronze]

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I don't have an answer to your question,but holy crap, I wish I had that much ambition to get my truck done. Well I do but my wife and job only afford me so much garage time. Looks great man, keep it up.

Ambition is injected1 smoothing the firewall and removing the interior! I want to drive mine someday!

 

[dgoodhue]

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I don't have the original parts, so I am not sure if the inner fenders were gloss or semi like the wheel wells. Any suggestions or comments on that plan?

The inner fenders definitely weren't a gloss finish.

 

[sy#2716]

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http://www.alkycontrol.com/


I use this kit and alot of others.

 

[The_Bronze]

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The other inside of the fender is prepped, drivers door and jamb are sanded as well. Now for the bottom of the hood, bed and rear of the cab. Just about ready for the first coat of primer!

 

[The Bronze]

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A little frustrating to see what appears to be such little progress in 3 weeks, but I am still moving along.

 

[The Bronze]

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I built another paint booth in my garage so I could spray the bottom of the hood, the inner fenders and the radiator support. Turned out pretty good, but since there is less light on that end and no ventilation, I put down a bit too much clear and got a sag and a run.

 

[QuinnSY]

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Looks great! I need to paint My Sy too! Need to eventually learn how to paint as good as you!

 

[JAY]

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Looking good!! Remind me of when we redid mine. Believe me all the hard work will be worth it. What color/finish are you going to paint the cladding? Gloss or satin?

 

[The Bronze]

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I have been doing some wetsanding and the bed is about done. I have been having a hard time getting properly motivated and way too busy at work. But today, motivation showed up in the mail:

 

[The Bronze]

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and yes, there is another head where that one came from...:tup:

 

[sharkbait]

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hey bronze, did you buy that bronco in the backround from NY? is it eggplant colored?

by the way, great work on the resto on the sy.