MR_MNZTR_SY
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just wondering if anyone has tried this yet what the results were. i really want one but they are so damn expensive.
carbon fiber drive shafts
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MR_MNZTR_SY
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cool...uh, whos brian hartman?
KGB Pilot125
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also I believe Al dunstan is making em too. his are aluminium+composite. roomate jsut ordered a set, from both people I beleive
Lt250suzuk
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The rear shaft I sell are a Metal Matrix composite. This is half composite and aluminum. These shafts have the weight savings of carbon without the worry about a stone hitting them and shattering. The price is 490.00 plus shipping. I can also do a carbon shaft but you are looking at around 1000.00 for that and I do not think they are worth it. The MMC shaft as been in cars producing as much as 2500hp with no problems yet. Please email or call if you have more questions. Thanks.
Brian Hartman
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HHP Racing has many options available.
Yes I have the 3.75" carbon fiber shafts for around a grand. I'm working on getting a better price, maybe in a group purchase. No, you don't have to worry about a rock hitting them and rendering them unless. Any rock that will damage these with it's coating will damage a Duralcan MMC Aluminum shaft as well. I can do the Aluminum matrix shafts with the same componet set up as the carbon fiber setup and they are available in 3 1/2 x .110 Duraclan and 4" x .083 Duraclan sizes for the lower power lower RPM engine combinations. I also have the Chromoly shafts avaiable in 3" x .083 4130. They are more expensive that normal shafts that are available around or mentioned earlier but that is because of the top grade components that are used which are made out of high impact 4340 chromoly at VERY tight tolerances. These shafts are used in Pro Mod/Nitro Coupe divisions which the setup as sold, not just that the shaft material is used, all of it as it sits is used in the cars. I'm also working on getting titanium yokes made as well.
Lot's more to come from HHP Racing....
Yes I have the 3.75" carbon fiber shafts for around a grand. I'm working on getting a better price, maybe in a group purchase. No, you don't have to worry about a rock hitting them and rendering them unless. Any rock that will damage these with it's coating will damage a Duralcan MMC Aluminum shaft as well. I can do the Aluminum matrix shafts with the same componet set up as the carbon fiber setup and they are available in 3 1/2 x .110 Duraclan and 4" x .083 Duraclan sizes for the lower power lower RPM engine combinations. I also have the Chromoly shafts avaiable in 3" x .083 4130. They are more expensive that normal shafts that are available around or mentioned earlier but that is because of the top grade components that are used which are made out of high impact 4340 chromoly at VERY tight tolerances. These shafts are used in Pro Mod/Nitro Coupe divisions which the setup as sold, not just that the shaft material is used, all of it as it sits is used in the cars. I'm also working on getting titanium yokes made as well.
Lot's more to come from HHP Racing....
TheObiJuan
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a friend of mine has a 1993 Chevy Truck Extened Cab. His truck is really fast, arround 14.xx in the 1/4. He has a lot of mods done to it and rides pretty nice for a 5200lbs truck. My point is that he needs a custom one piece driveshaft made. He loses a lot of power with his two piece. Around town we have been told that an aluminum one would shatter with the amount of torque he is using. Would you all be able to make him a custom single piece drive shaft or know someone that can fabricate one.
Brian Hartman
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Yep, I can do it. You'll want to go to 4" MMC Aluminum or 3.75" Carbon Fiber if he's really serious.
TheObiJuan
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So you can make it for an extened cab chevy into a one piece from a two piece. What do you estimate prices for an aluminum, and for a carbon fiber? What would be most benificial for his purpose, for future use. (high 11's)
It would seem that it with an extended cab, a one piece shaft would produce poor nvh charecteristics. the shaft would have a tendancy to vibrate (like an antenna) in the middle. also, I would be concerned about the angles... single cardan joints to not like high angles. although the angle would certainly be reduced in a lowered vehicle. just curious what sort of testing has been done nvh wise on those shafts....
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Brian Hartman
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The MMC aluminum shafts need to move up to the 4" O.D. x .110" wall thickness after you exceed 50" long because it wants to act like a jump rope after that if you don't go bigger. The carbon fiber shafts are more ideal in this situation because carbon fiber is VERY stiff. That's why this shaft is used on the longer applications like the Pro Stock Trucks.
I am just curious, what are the reduction on the quarter mile times will we expect from adding in those drive shafts, or even prop shafts in the Syclones and Typhoons.
Like for modded ones that runs either 12's or 11's or even 10's!
I believe that a reduction on rotating mass makes bigger difference than a reduction of non rotating mass.
Like for modded ones that runs either 12's or 11's or even 10's!
I believe that a reduction on rotating mass makes bigger difference than a reduction of non rotating mass.
TheObiJuan
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So Briane what do you suppose it would cost to fabricate one that would work. One that would not cause problems or driveline vibration.
Brian,
Are you designing these custom shafts or are you just buying the shafting? I'm assuming the carbon fiber shaft is being made from a symmetric combination of carbon/epoxy sheets. If so what combination of sheets are you using? [+-45/0/0/0/+-45]s? And what are the specs on the sheets? Have you done fatique test with them? And are you giving any warrenty with them? Thanks. I'm just alittle curious.
Are you designing these custom shafts or are you just buying the shafting? I'm assuming the carbon fiber shaft is being made from a symmetric combination of carbon/epoxy sheets. If so what combination of sheets are you using? [+-45/0/0/0/+-45]s? And what are the specs on the sheets? Have you done fatique test with them? And are you giving any warrenty with them? Thanks. I'm just alittle curious.
Brian Hartman
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The shafts are built to spec from a third party vendor. I don't have their method of construction. They don't disclose it, trade secret or something.
Yes, they are tested all the time. Watch The Pro Mod/Nitro Coupe and ProStock truck divisions. They are used exclusively. Just like how you get it. So what is that 3000-4000 hp? At even half that, that would be great. I need to see the ins and outs of the warranty since these are not only going to be used as a drag race only application. Usually company cover the shafts until you use them for drag racing so that should tell you they are the strongest possible.
Yes, they are tested all the time. Watch The Pro Mod/Nitro Coupe and ProStock truck divisions. They are used exclusively. Just like how you get it. So what is that 3000-4000 hp? At even half that, that would be great. I need to see the ins and outs of the warranty since these are not only going to be used as a drag race only application. Usually company cover the shafts until you use them for drag racing so that should tell you they are the strongest possible.