convert clicking?

The Devils Own Chariot

The Devils Own Chariot

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What the H is this all about? I see the flexplate and converter are not running true. I hear some weird metal clicking noises. I personally installed all the flexplate bolts with lock tight. The engine does not even have 500 miles in it. I did use washers to seat the converter back into the trans better. Is that the issue? I discovered this when I was examining the leaking oil pan gasket in the rear. I wont mention any names on who installed it. You know who you are and thanks for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSxbSrj8OY&feature=youtu.be
 
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atkonkler

atkonkler

Is this your bush?
Re: convert clicking?

Take out the washers keith....If there were no washers in the first place ....don't put washers in play.....
 
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The Devils Own Chariot

The Devils Own Chariot

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Re: convert clicking?

I hope you are right. Another member on there recommended I do that. Not saying its right or wrong. I did some reading last night. I think I will try to run the truck with the converter disconnected. See if the flexplate still wobbles.
 
jharrison

jharrison

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Re: convert clicking?

I had a similar problem, shimmed the torque converter to the proper engagement depth and the noise was still there. In my case it turned out to be the starter. After the truck fired up, the gear wouldn't fully retract and would sit so close to the flywheel that when you would rev it they would touch. It was kinda weird because you would expect a grinding noise, but instead it was this loud metallic clicking. I didn't find this out till I removed the inspection cover and had someone start it while I watched underneath. Swapped out starters and the noise was gone. The sad part was I actually swapped transmissions and even sent the converter to TCS to be checked before figuring out it was the starter. Oh well, live and learn. HTH
 
Z SKI

Z SKI

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Re: convert clicking?

Does your converter install spec sheets specify a specific amount of pump spline engagement?? If so, and using correct sized shims is the proper way to get the adaquate amount of pump engagement.

Make sure your shims are all exactly the same thickness (dial calipers) and that they fall into the min.-max. that the converter company specs out.

I had to shim my Precision Vigalante converter to get proper pump engagement. Remember the converter could be pushed in to tight= smashed pump or pulled out to far= stripped splines on pump... There will be a measurable tollarance that the converter company should be able to spec.

Don't just take the shims out and run it, watch out what some people recommend on here..It ain't their shit and most of the time they are just their "Opinions". It could hurt the pump.. Do some research first and call the converter company to see what they say..

Hope this helps..
 
AUSyTyIN

AUSyTyIN

Unbusted $#it box
Re: convert clicking?

Sy #1616 had a cracked flex plate when I bought it...sounded like what you are describing.
 
atkonkler

atkonkler

Is this your bush?
Re: convert clicking?

Z SKI said:
Does your converter install spec sheets specify a specific amount of pump spline engagement?? If so, and using correct sized shims is the proper way to get the adaquate amount of pump engagement.

Make sure your shims are all exactly the same thickness (dial calipers) and that they fall into the min.-max. that the converter company specs out.

I had to shim my Precision Vigalante converter to get proper pump engagement. Remember the converter could be pushed in to tight= smashed pump or pulled out to far= stripped splines on pump... There will be a measurable tollarance that the converter company should be able to spec.

Don't just take the shims out and run it, watch out what some people recommend on here..It ain't their shit and most of the time they are just their "Opinions". It could hurt the pump.. Do some research first and call the converter company to see what they say..

Hope this helps..
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He put washers in....not a shim....big difference their....Keith call the company that sold you the converter and ask them....don't take anyone's "I hope this helps/opinion".....I'm not even gonna go there....I'm better than low blows that are very discreet.....

Keith if you want any help I could journey down to see you if you need another hand or ear.....lmk talk to you later I know you still have my number.
 
AUSyTyIN

AUSyTyIN

Unbusted $#it box
Re: convert clicking?

Spin the flex plate and gently pry on it in several places (with the converter disconnected). Quick and easy test to see if it's cracked or not.
 
The Devils Own Chariot

The Devils Own Chariot

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Re: convert clicking?

Cool thanks for the info guys. Im still using the stock converter. Im going to say the washers on the stock converter is not a good idea? The converter is not setting all the way back on the spline. There was play both ways when I installed the washers. I just listened to what another member recommended. I will give everything a try. I hope nothing is damaged.
 
Quickstop [UK]

Quickstop [UK]

Combating adversyty.
Re: convert clicking?

Who recommended washers on a stock converter? I've never heard of it. You should be able to pull the converter forward to mate with the flexplate. There is much more than the thickness of a washer in it - about 5/8" based on some earlier transmission threads as well as my own experience. The main lesson I took from trans installs is to pull the converter forward. as long as it is seated properly, you're good. If it is pushed back, you crush the pump.

I would be surprised if the washers had caused much of a problem but it could be that the washers pushed it back just enough and caused the pump to be damaged which is causing the wobble due to misalignment and subsequently cracking the flexplate. You have a lot of guesses going on here though.

You need to inspect your flexplate first however.
 
The Devils Own Chariot

The Devils Own Chariot

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Re: convert clicking?

Just a follow up on this post. I took the washers out and its smooth as butter now. I still hear the clicking. Not sure if I need to worry about that.
 
The Devils Own Chariot

The Devils Own Chariot

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Re: convert clicking?

I just put the flexplate in the truck 500 miles ago and it was not cracked. I flexed the flexplate off the converter and I heard no clicking. I dont think its cracked. Its only got 40K miles on that plate.
 
Quickstop [UK]

Quickstop [UK]

Combating adversyty.
Re: convert clicking?

Is the clicking the same?

Be good to see if it is in balance although I doubt YouTube will really show that. You'd need a dial gauge and to turn the flex plate by hand.

Have you had a stethoscope on the engine to isolate the location of the ticking?
 
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