External or stock waste gate???
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12secondSY
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Re: External or stock waste gate???
External, only downfall I know of is that its loud. I like it that way though.
External, only downfall I know of is that its loud. I like it that way though.
typhoon0097
New member
Re: External or stock waste gate???
Same here
12secondSY said:
Same here
wantingasy
Active member
Re: External or stock waste gate???
This might sound dumb, but what do you mean by it's loud? Like the loud blow off sound when you let off the gas for instance? :dunno:
This might sound dumb, but what do you mean by it's loud? Like the loud blow off sound when you let off the gas for instance? :dunno:
Ian Turgeon
Cascading Inspiration
Re: External or stock waste gate???
an external gate = hole in your exhaust before the cat/muffler. And since it opens under boost, its nice and loud. Sounds like a leaky header.
You can also tell the difference between bleeders and electronic ones just by the sound, bleeders open gradually and stay open at a consistant rate. Electronic ones will flutter on and off more.
an external gate = hole in your exhaust before the cat/muffler. And since it opens under boost, its nice and loud. Sounds like a leaky header.
You can also tell the difference between bleeders and electronic ones just by the sound, bleeders open gradually and stay open at a consistant rate. Electronic ones will flutter on and off more.
Re: External or stock waste gate???
If your running the stock turbo id say stick with the stock setup, it works very well and is clean.
But if you want to upgrae to a bigger turbo and downpipe and such and maybe some headers, than id say the only way to go is external,much better boost control.
If your running the stock turbo id say stick with the stock setup, it works very well and is clean.
But if you want to upgrae to a bigger turbo and downpipe and such and maybe some headers, than id say the only way to go is external,much better boost control.
wantingasy
Active member
Re: External or stock waste gate???
After the external wastegate is put in before the cat/muffler, what happens with the internal wastegate that is stock? Sorry if this sounds dumb, I've been thinking about putting an external on.
SyTyArchives said:
After the external wastegate is put in before the cat/muffler, what happens with the internal wastegate that is stock? Sorry if this sounds dumb, I've been thinking about putting an external on.
dirtdemon
"mr. ghettowrench"
Re: External or stock waste gate???
:checkit:
http://www.sytyarchives.com/howto/viewarticle.php?article_name=external_wastegate.php&dir=engine
read the lower half - check the last pic
good luck , and tell us what happens if u got it done - im interested in the same mod ...
... :boink:
regards,pat.
:checkit:
http://www.sytyarchives.com/howto/viewarticle.php?article_name=external_wastegate.php&dir=engine
read the lower half - check the last pic
good luck , and tell us what happens if u got it done - im interested in the same mod ...
... :boink:
regards,pat.
Ian Turgeon
Cascading Inspiration
Re: External or stock waste gate???
btw, the wire will work, but welding is better, really all you need is a spot weld on the wastegate arm itself, remove the whole actuator and free up some space.
btw, the wire will work, but welding is better, really all you need is a spot weld on the wastegate arm itself, remove the whole actuator and free up some space.
jamnut
Member
Re: External or stock waste gate???
Newbie here with a little question.
If you go with an external gate or even an internal gate with an external boost controller, will you get any computer DTC codes by removing boost control from the stock computer?
I'm a LS1 tuner, don't know anything about these computers, but I do know that I can't just clear DTC's with my HP Tuners on a Sy.
Newbie here with a little question.
If you go with an external gate or even an internal gate with an external boost controller, will you get any computer DTC codes by removing boost control from the stock computer?
I'm a LS1 tuner, don't know anything about these computers, but I do know that I can't just clear DTC's with my HP Tuners on a Sy.
93 TY 2185
Donating Member
Re: External or stock waste gate???
You can just leave the boost solenoid electrically connected and the computer is none the wiser. HTH
jamnut said:
You can just leave the boost solenoid electrically connected and the computer is none the wiser. HTH
Ian Turgeon
Cascading Inspiration
Re: External or stock waste gate???
no need to leave the solenoid connected, mines gone and the harness is tucked away.
no need to leave the solenoid connected, mines gone and the harness is tucked away.
ghettosled
SYTY SUPERSTORE
Re: External or stock waste gate???
the computer will not throw a code w/ the wire disconnected, and if you tighten the wg rod you will not be able to make full boost. The internal will still leak, so your best bet is to tack weld it as mentioned earlier. The benefit of putting an external on a stock turbo setup is you are able to remove the cat and or free up the exhaust which reduces your EGT's (along ith overall under hood temps) and spools MUCH faster, plus your boost will not creep or spike. the downside is if you upgrade to a larger turbo kit in the future, most of them are already provisioned for the larger wastegates.
the computer will not throw a code w/ the wire disconnected, and if you tighten the wg rod you will not be able to make full boost. The internal will still leak, so your best bet is to tack weld it as mentioned earlier. The benefit of putting an external on a stock turbo setup is you are able to remove the cat and or free up the exhaust which reduces your EGT's (along ith overall under hood temps) and spools MUCH faster, plus your boost will not creep or spike. the downside is if you upgrade to a larger turbo kit in the future, most of them are already provisioned for the larger wastegates.
Ian Turgeon
Cascading Inspiration
Re: External or stock waste gate???
yea, what mike said. The external will work with anything, however most aftermarket turbos will have sufficient integral gates that would negate the need for it.
I bit the bullet, the way I look at it theres not much out there that will work better then the external gate. It has residual bennefits besides just being good boost control. I didnt see myself going with much more turbo then a 20g, so this is where I landed...
yea, what mike said. The external will work with anything, however most aftermarket turbos will have sufficient integral gates that would negate the need for it.
I bit the bullet, the way I look at it theres not much out there that will work better then the external gate. It has residual bennefits besides just being good boost control. I didnt see myself going with much more turbo then a 20g, so this is where I landed...