pearl91chevy
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im off to the track in about 20 min.. wish me luck!!! hopefully they got wifi out there ill keep posted
Improving stock turbo Typhoon track times
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teamvortec
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Good luck def post what happens, can't wait til I can take mine. Thats one of the downfalls of working away from home and a family. But it sure is cool when I go to the shop with my son and we work on the typhoon. I have a picture of him when he couldn't even walk on a creeper just looking around. Good stuff
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Good luck def post what happens, can't wait til I can take mine. Thats one of the downfalls of working away from home and a family. But it sure is cool when I go to the shop with my son and we work on the typhoon. I have a picture of him when he couldn't even walk on a creeper just looking around. Good stuff
It's just a six
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Smoke some stangs is all I have to say, & BTW... Goodluck!
Re: Fastest stock turbo?
Smoke some stangs is all I have to say, & BTW... Goodluck!
pearl91chevy
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Well I did beat some stangs but my times sucked.i logged two runs.. My boost was not on my Side today, was bouncing all over the place.
60ft 1.8
1/8 8.8 at 74
1/4 14.1 at 92.3
Somethings up with 3rd gear and boost cause It drops and raises.. I'll post a log in a bit
edit heres logs from my first and last run.. my best run was 2nd which is times i posted above... ughhh got alot of work ahead of me.. any advice??
http://www.mediafire.com/?7d7c203bglfjpgc
http://www.mediafire.com/?wun74amh7wz81w9
Re: Fastest stock turbo?
Well I did beat some stangs but my times sucked.i logged two runs.. My boost was not on my Side today, was bouncing all over the place.
60ft 1.8
1/8 8.8 at 74
1/4 14.1 at 92.3
Somethings up with 3rd gear and boost cause It drops and raises.. I'll post a log in a bit
edit heres logs from my first and last run.. my best run was 2nd which is times i posted above... ughhh got alot of work ahead of me.. any advice??
http://www.mediafire.com/?7d7c203bglfjpgc
http://www.mediafire.com/?wun74amh7wz81w9
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pearl91chevy
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boost is supposed to be set at 18 and its on 93
i see its saying the pump is on, and i can physically hear it running... also feeling the lines running to the cooler up top i can feel fluid running threw them..
Re: Fastest stock turbo?
boost is supposed to be set at 18 and its on 93
i see its saying the pump is on, and i can physically hear it running... also feeling the lines running to the cooler up top i can feel fluid running threw them..
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dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
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You probably have either a kinked rubber hose or air trapped in the system. Sometimes the factory IC can be tricky to get working 100%. With my factory W2A, my intake temps would be about 15 degree over ambient and it would rise 30 degree over a 1/4 mile.
I am not sure where you live but I am guess it wasn't 90-95 degree F at the track. Get that fixed and you should see some big gains.
If you think it feels fast at 14.1, wait until you getting it running 12's
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You probably have either a kinked rubber hose or air trapped in the system. Sometimes the factory IC can be tricky to get working 100%. With my factory W2A, my intake temps would be about 15 degree over ambient and it would rise 30 degree over a 1/4 mile.
I am not sure where you live but I am guess it wasn't 90-95 degree F at the track. Get that fixed and you should see some big gains.
If you think it feels fast at 14.1, wait until you getting it running 12's
pearl91chevy
Donating Member
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i knoe for sure lines arent kinked.. whats best way to get air outta the system?? and no it was a high of 60 today, plus i was running early morning when temps were cooler..
One thing im worried about is in 3rd the boost drop it shows.. what would cause this??
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You probably have either a kinked rubber hose or air trapped in the system. Sometimes the factory IC can be tricky to get working 100%. With my factory W2A, my intake temps would be about 15 degree over ambient and it would rise 30 degree over a 1/4 mile.
I am not sure where you live but I am guess it wasn't 90-95 degree F at the track. Get that fixed and you should see some big gains.
If you think it feels fast at 14.1, wait until you getting it running 12's
i knoe for sure lines arent kinked.. whats best way to get air outta the system?? and no it was a high of 60 today, plus i was running early morning when temps were cooler..
One thing im worried about is in 3rd the boost drop it shows.. what would cause this??
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
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If you just have the stock IC, I would jumper the ALDL connector with the A & B pins which will hot wire the IC pump to be on. Keep the cap off and keep adding fluid. Air pockets should work themselves out. When its working properly, you should see the fluid swirling in the upper IC. Don't discount the hoses getting pinched, its pretty easy to pinch the rubber hose down by the lower CCHE when reinstalling it. I know atleast on a couple occasions that I swore I had it right only to reach up and find a pinched hose.
As for roller coaster 15-19 psi of boost in 3rd gear, that is pretty 'normal' for a stock turbo internal wastage. 100% Stock truck often go from 12-15psi in third gear. The run I looked at, only hit about 15psi in 1st and 2nd gear. You maybe want to try tightening the waste gate rod a little. It may help out the 1st and 2nd gear some. Getting a more stable boost level would be one way to increase your ET.
You need to get the intake temps down first I am actually surprise you didn't have more spark retard with all heat in the intake and relatively high boost. I bet the truck would easily run low 13's once the intake temps are down.
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If you just have the stock IC, I would jumper the ALDL connector with the A & B pins which will hot wire the IC pump to be on. Keep the cap off and keep adding fluid. Air pockets should work themselves out. When its working properly, you should see the fluid swirling in the upper IC. Don't discount the hoses getting pinched, its pretty easy to pinch the rubber hose down by the lower CCHE when reinstalling it. I know atleast on a couple occasions that I swore I had it right only to reach up and find a pinched hose.
As for roller coaster 15-19 psi of boost in 3rd gear, that is pretty 'normal' for a stock turbo internal wastage. 100% Stock truck often go from 12-15psi in third gear. The run I looked at, only hit about 15psi in 1st and 2nd gear. You maybe want to try tightening the waste gate rod a little. It may help out the 1st and 2nd gear some. Getting a more stable boost level would be one way to increase your ET.
You need to get the intake temps down first I am actually surprise you didn't have more spark retard with all heat in the intake and relatively high boost. I bet the truck would easily run low 13's once the intake temps are down.
Flyin Ryan
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My syclone totally stock besides afpr, walbro, ultra flow muffler and pit bull street chip ran 13.09 over boosting to 18 psi.. Never got a chance to run the truck at a track after all the mods though
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My syclone totally stock besides afpr, walbro, ultra flow muffler and pit bull street chip ran 13.09 over boosting to 18 psi.. Never got a chance to run the truck at a track after all the mods though
It's just a six
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Yeah son!, At least some stangs lost.:rotf::tup:
I cannot read your file, but I know when your engine sees knock, it will retard the timing & boost will drop. There are other things that will cause boost fluctuating also.
190 degrees F is really hot for intake temps, need to definitely work on that getting cooler.
What is the A/F ratio towards the end of your runs?
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Yeah son!, At least some stangs lost.:rotf::tup:
I cannot read your file, but I know when your engine sees knock, it will retard the timing & boost will drop. There are other things that will cause boost fluctuating also.
190 degrees F is really hot for intake temps, need to definitely work on that getting cooler.
What is the A/F ratio towards the end of your runs?
teamvortec
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Times might not of been what you wanted but remember any day at track and nothing breaks I a good day. I would definitely work on the intake temperature. When you get the temps down you will feel the difference. How does you upper inter cooler look when you take the cap off? Does it look crudded up or corroded?
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Times might not of been what you wanted but remember any day at track and nothing breaks I a good day. I would definitely work on the intake temperature. When you get the temps down you will feel the difference. How does you upper inter cooler look when you take the cap off? Does it look crudded up or corroded?
pearl91chevy
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The pump is already hard wired for when key is on. And I wanna say it was a aftermarket pump just haven't pulled it out to look for myself. The insid of the cooler looks super clean. But I do not see the fluid moving in it with the pump on even though I hear the pump on and feel the line pumping, I did notice the fluid is a little low in there even though the coolant container and rad is full...
Ive also got a tip that might timing might be off so I'll be checking that tnight to make sure.. I don't plan on going to trck again for another 2 weeks so I have plenty of time to play with this..
Overall I'm not really disappointed on times considering there almost a full second better then when I first got the Ty so were making process here :tup:
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The pump is already hard wired for when key is on. And I wanna say it was a aftermarket pump just haven't pulled it out to look for myself. The insid of the cooler looks super clean. But I do not see the fluid moving in it with the pump on even though I hear the pump on and feel the line pumping, I did notice the fluid is a little low in there even though the coolant container and rad is full...
Ive also got a tip that might timing might be off so I'll be checking that tnight to make sure.. I don't plan on going to trck again for another 2 weeks so I have plenty of time to play with this..
Overall I'm not really disappointed on times considering there almost a full second better then when I first got the Ty so were making process here :tup:
teamvortec
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Glad to hear that. Definitely sounds like there is a blockage in the coolant system or something is wrong with your pump. If you need to pull the hose loose place it in a bucket and turn the pump on and see if it is pumping.
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Glad to hear that. Definitely sounds like there is a blockage in the coolant system or something is wrong with your pump. If you need to pull the hose loose place it in a bucket and turn the pump on and see if it is pumping.
pearl91chevy
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Was already thinking of that if I can't get it figured out with it all togther. I haven't searched yet but what should timing be set at? I know I unplug a wire under the dash
Re: Fastest stock turbo?
Was already thinking of that if I can't get it figured out with it all togther. I haven't searched yet but what should timing be set at? I know I unplug a wire under the dash
Darin
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The radiator and the stock intercooler are separate units, they don't share coolant. The only time they are connected is at the puke tank, and the stock intercooler system can't draw coolant back into itself like the radiator can.
If it's low on coolant, top it off at the intercooler itself.
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The radiator and the stock intercooler are separate units, they don't share coolant. The only time they are connected is at the puke tank, and the stock intercooler system can't draw coolant back into itself like the radiator can.
If it's low on coolant, top it off at the intercooler itself.
pearl91chevy
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SY2932
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X2. If you didn't do so when you got to the track, lay a bag of ice on the top of both the IC and the upper intake and let it cool before you make your pass. FWIW, my best with stock turbo was with the stock downpipe. I didn't make a full 3" conversion until I got my PTE turbo a few years ago.
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X2. If you didn't do so when you got to the track, lay a bag of ice on the top of both the IC and the upper intake and let it cool before you make your pass. FWIW, my best with stock turbo was with the stock downpipe. I didn't make a full 3" conversion until I got my PTE turbo a few years ago.
Darin
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This is my opinion only, but I feel one of the problems with the stock intercooler system isn't the cooler itself, or the heat exchanger down below. I don't feel there is enough capacity of fluid in the entire system. Less fluid means that it will heat up quicker.
I think an ice box or just a 1-2 gallon reservoir would make a huge difference.
Re: Fastest stock turbo?
This is my opinion only, but I feel one of the problems with the stock intercooler system isn't the cooler itself, or the heat exchanger down below. I don't feel there is enough capacity of fluid in the entire system. Less fluid means that it will heat up quicker.
I think an ice box or just a 1-2 gallon reservoir would make a huge difference.