Time for a new propshaft.

[Syclone2163]

It seems that the time has come to put on a new propshaft . I was under the truck about a week ago and noticed that the boot was torn. I was curious what was recommended. Should I rebuild the stock shaft or buy a new one? And if I buy a new one which one should I buy? Anything locally in the Tampa Bay area that may sell them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[turboj91]

If I ever had to buy one, I would but one from Brandon. Some think it's overkill (especially on a stock truck), but it would give me the satisfaction of one less thing I worried about. For the price, it's a great insurance policy.

 

[Blake]

You probably won't be able to get one from him until he gets a better builder . There are a couple pics of a failure that Brandon is addressing from what I've read. Sounds like he's looking for a new builder. Only way to know for sure is to contact him though.
Blake

 

[ParTyBoy]

Re: Time for a new propshaft.

It seems that the time has come to put on a new propshaft . I was under the truck about a week ago and noticed that the boot was torn. I was curious what was recommended. Should I rebuild the stock shaft or buy a new one? And if I buy a new one which one should I buy? Anything locally in the Tampa Bay area that may sell them? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Unfortunately the stock shaft is more of a problem that it's worth repairing due to the front cv boot/joint design...

Replacement Options:

Dynotech/Al Dustan Unit at $490
Double cardigan joint on T-case end.. singular on front diff.. may require modification of tranny linkage..

Brandon's propshaft $375
Single cardigan on either end...

or you could have something built locally... guys here in town quoted me around $325 however I'm not to familiar with what joints should be used/componenets/etc... or their work with shafts that are under stress.. so it could be a risk to try this avenue... someone want to offer some insight???

 

[MR_MNZTR_SY]

i got the same problem. tomorrow im yankin it (the shaft...PROPshaft)and im just gonna have to go to napa for a quick fix. id love to wait for brandon to get a builder or till i get the money to buy als but every time i take the truck out, it gets worse and worse. cant play games right now, go to napa, make truck driveable again, save money for quaility part...thats the plan also, wasnt brian hartman developing a carbon fiber one? what ever happened with that?

 

[ParTyBoy]

i got the same problem. tomorrow im yankin it (the shaft...PROPshaft)and im just gonna have to go to napa for a quick fix. id love to wait for brandon to get a builder or till i get the money to buy als but every time i take the truck out, it gets worse and worse. cant play games right now, go to napa, make truck driveable again, save money for quaility part...thats the plan also, wasnt brian hartman developing a carbon fiber one? what ever happened with that?

brian has many shafts available... almost forgot.... however, they don't come without a price... carbon fiber shaft will put you back about $1000 ...
but if there's one thing for sure.. If you purchase something from brian you're guarenteed a quality product built to last... no two ways about that....

 

[SY756]

I had my propshaft rebuilt here locally by a reputable drive shaft shop and it cost me I believe about $180 but it has held up under alot of launches over the past 3 yrs. They rebuilt it with a single cardigan up front with a slip yoke off of, what looks like a tractor PTO, and the double cardigan in the rear. Bolted right up and it took them about a day.

 

[MR_MNZTR_SY]

yeah napas shaft is 204 with a 67 dollar core charge (PN 12352) and then i get a student discount. dont know how much that is but something is better than nothing, it will get me down the road. as far as prices go, i think you get what you pay for. i consider myself screwed for the time being. oh well, if it breaks, napa can buy me a new one

 

[turboj91]

Don't forget, the drive shaft safety loops from Phil are also a great deal. Especially the front. They are bolt on and the front one would save your floor, shifter cable, trans pan and feet. I believe he is selling a pair for $160.00.

 

[Syclone2163]

Well unfortunately I also don’t have the time to wait for Brandon’s shaft. I need it to be fixed as quick as possible since the Sy is my daily. Does anyone know the part number for the NAPA shaft?

 

[ParTyBoy]

Well unfortunately I also don’t have the time to wait for Brandon’s shaft. I need it to be fixed as quick as possible since the Sy is my daily. Does anyone know the part number for the NAPA shaft?

mine is as well.. can relate... look two posts above.... part number should be there... or talk to Jas... look on www.sytyauthority.net

 

[Bundaho]

I demolished mine and dynotech told me they could not rebuild it and it would be like 490$ for a new one. I went to a company that makes bigrig diesel driveshafts to see if they could rebuild it. It cost 185$ and feels great. No vibration.

 

[JustBeachin]

Fortunately for me, when I bought the pre-prototype sy, it came with a CONTROL SHAFT from PAS.....built by dynotech, so I should be able to fix it quickly......I've had good luck with the shaft in my Ty, it's got 93k miles on it and still holding up well.

http://www.geocities.com/doug1away/syclone/prop.jpg

cut and paste for a pic of the damage I did to the propshaft from the Syclone.

 

[TYPHOOL7]

Syclone2163 wrote:
Well unfortunately I also don’t have the time to wait for Brandon’s shaft. I need it to be fixed as quick as possible since the Sy is my daily. Does anyone know the part number for the NAPA shaft?

With all do respect, considering that you cant wait, you know that you can drive your truck as if it were 2wd for temporary purposes without damaging the drivetrain, if i were you, and im not doubting your intelligance by saying this i would take out the shaft and get a shaft from where PARTBOY reccommends because it will be well worth it and you will not have to worry about it again, dont get me wrong napa is good but some parts are more specifically designed for our cars by car owners themselves so i woul say to trust them and do the smart thing.

 

[Syclone2163]

Thanks for all the responses, i feel im getting closer to deceiding which one to buy.

I tried calling Napa today and the only part number i could get was 12-357 and i think it was like $368.00. I dont even know if that is the correct one or not but it was all the guy could find. Has anyone checked to see if the part number from the above post (PN 12352) is the right one. Maybe the one i found was a more beefy one. There's a big price difference between 368.00 and 204.00.

ParTyBoy, do you know how much the one from Jas might run? And if i did order it, how long should i expect untill i receive it? Or should i just email him? Also do you have this particular shaft, if so how has it been? Sorry for all the questions, but i just want to get this done ASAP.

Thanks again.

 

[MR_MNZTR_SY]

dude, im in the same boat as you. yesterday i was on the phone with the napa guy for about 20 minutes trying to figure this out. we came up with 3 part numbers: 12352, 12357, and another one that i cant remember. he said that monday morning he would call his distributer and find out for sure the correct part. i got no info on prices.

also yesterday, i decided to pull the propshaft. i was able to get 7 of the 8 bolts out within 2 hours. (i think this could have been done much faster had i had better quality tools) but there was ONE DAMN bolt that REFUSED to budge :evil: it took me about 5 hours of tourches and vice grips and wrenches to finally decide to get a saws all and decapitate the damned thing.

i put a few miles on the truck and am going to put a few more on tomorrow and see what happens. a problem that i had from time to time since the shaft went bad was a clunking sound when i turned. it doesnt do it everytime but when it does it, its gotten much worse since i pulled the shaft. someone said that could be the gears in the front diff binding up. this makes sence but how bad is this actually? also, dont expect an amazing rwd syclone when you take it out...its not, its sloooow.

and as for waiting for the aftermarket shafts or not, this is a part that NEEDS to be on the truck for my own piece of mind and so i cant wait possibly months for brandons shaft to come back out again or to save up some more money for the other guys shafts. im gonna go with the napa part and when the time is right to get the better one i will, UNLESS someone can tell me FOR SURE when they are gonna be made again.

man that was long...sorry

 

[Syclone2163]

Thanks for the info MR_MNZTR_SY.

It sounds like a pain in the ass to find the right shaft and replace it :evil: . Sounds like you got a lot farther with the NAPA guys then i did though. Anyway, if you hear back from NAPA please let me know. I cant wait to get this thing behind me.

Thanks.

 

[Blake]

You guys may want to call Rick Krupa and order one from him. Still uses the CV front joint but improved design over the original. If you get the NAPA, more likely than not, it will vibrate like crazy no matter how you index it. It sounds like this driveshaft thing is really bothering you and you'll be very disappointed if you go the NAPA route. I sure was. 2 weeks waiting on it. Finally got it. Piece of junk. Sent it back. Got money back.
Waste of time. There were several others that had vibration problems and never said anything until I posted about the trouble I had with mine. The first thing I thought was...why the hell didn't you say yours sucked before I bought mine? :evil: It is always up to you however.
George Blake

 

[InvisiBill]

http://www.syty.net/personal/Typhoon/my_ty_page5.htm shows a NAPA shaft 50-357, which I've been told is an old number. If you do find the right one for sure, let us know. Keith said his has been great and he would recommend it to others as a stockish replacement.

Dynotech can rebuild it to stock for $160 I believe. You'll still have the problems with that front joint and boot though. Or they have the new heavy duty one that you can get through Al Dustan for $490. Brandon's is bigger than stock so you might have to adjust things a little as well. The double cardin joint is used to eliminate vibrations, so that could be a problem with Brandon's as well. Adam (Sy0237) told me that he had his front joint replaced with a "regular" joint by a local bigrig place too, and it was cheap and works great.

Blake, how is NAPA with returns? I don't mind using a NAPA shaft (at least for now), but I don't want to blow $200-300 on a wobbly piece of crap.

 

[MR_MNZTR_SY]

well i just got a message on my answering machine about the shaft from napa. the guy says they dont make it anymore. :evil: why does this seem like it will never end? the guy said that i could call him back with the exact production date of the truck to double check but basically there was nothing i could get from napa that will fit the truck. :roll: i guess im up shits creep for now. maybe i can broker a deal with the parental units on als shaft.....

and as for the vibration that i thought i was getting from the bad propshaft...nope, its still there. im now thinking its the left half shaft. dont you just love finding one expensive problem after another???