Trans Brake on a 700R4

Pittman

Pittman

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Im gettting my tranny ready with a 2800 rpm Art Carr converted and adding all the art carr stuff for the 700 in short my bill is already reached the ridiculous point so whats another 5 bills for a line lock anyone use one on a sy? You guys think the drive train would take it. It just seems so hard on it as it is to launch it with the brake and throttle.

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jwaller

jwaller

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yeah it would take it....but the Art carr tranny wont.....MAKE SURE YOU GET A LOCKUP CONVERTER....my buddies art carr special was nonlockup....he hated it
 
Pittman

Pittman

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Yeah the converter is a 9" lockup they are making it specificaly for the little sy. I think I will hold on the transbrake, line lock whatever you wanna call it. They 700 should be pretty tough when it gets out. My brother has had one in his truck for a while with no problems, full size silverado with a stroker gobs of unusable hp.
 
J

just a 6

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Transbrake = transmission, line-lock = brake system, correct me if i'm wrong :smile:



On 2002-02-10 10:42, Pittman wrote:
I think I will hold on the transbrake, line lock whatever you wanna call it.
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Pittman

Pittman

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No I wasnt being a jerk I was just being sarcastic. TransBrake is the proper terminology. Line lock is for the burnout, a selonoid operates the front brake only. I have heard them go by the same thing though. Like some people using the terms intercooler and aftercooler. Ive been dealing with airplanes for the last 12 years anything that implies inter is on the intake side prior to pistons although alot of the street punks out here those 16 yr olds in a the turbo civics refer to them as an aftercooler since its downstream of the turbo? By the way some of those civics are really fast.
 
RAACCR

RAACCR

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An intercooler refers to a heat exchanger between multiple stages of supercharging, while an aftercooler is the final heat exchanger between the final stage of supercharging and the engine. Since we've only got a single stage, either designation could be considered correct.
 
J

just a 6

R.I.P MyClone
And i was trying to be a smart a$$, sorry :wink:

On 2002-02-10 11:49, Pittman wrote:
No I wasnt being a jerk I was just being sarcastic. TransBrake is the proper terminology. Line lock is for the burnout, a selonoid operates the front brake only. I have heard them go by the same thing though. Like some people using the terms intercooler and aftercooler. Ive been dealing with airplanes for the last 12 years anything that implies inter is on the intake side prior to pistons although alot of the street punks out here those 16 yr olds in a the turbo civics refer to them as an aftercooler since its downstream of the turbo? By the way some of those civics are really fast.
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Pittman

Pittman

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Swede not a problem, Im a smart @ss monday through friday :smile: Ive only seen multiple stages on a diesel. My father had a motor home Prevost bus conversion it had two turbos feeding a supercharger. I wish I knew what kind of boost that thing was running.
 
tyndago

tyndago

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Getting back to the trans brake.... see the last part of that word ..... brake... well you actually should call it a trans BREAK , because that is what I can see happening if you launch an AWD ,4000 lb Typhoon , at 10 psi off the trans brake , and hook .

Trans brakes release fairly all of a sudden...not like leaving off the foot brake...

Shock the driveline.... see shock is bad..shock is what breaks parts....

It would be cool , but 99% of the people on the board have no use for it...

On the diesel thing - US Navy Detroit Diesel 16V149T... Quad Turbo , Twin Supercharged , 16 cylinder... 30 psi of boost out of the turbos - 1700 ish hp....used to spend about 12 hours a day making sure they were still running...
 
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FLSY2730

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I have seen big boats, like a 55 ft searay that had 2 cat motors with supercharger and 2 turbos. it seems like it would blow gaskets all day. sorry for the off topic jack
 
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Brian Hartman

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Yep I have trans brakes and they are very cool. But like Sean said, you will explode unless you build it up a lot more than most are willing to go. If you don't want to go that high, you will be the fastest truck that never even left the line. You wouldn't be very popular either after the 2 hours of cleaning up all your tranny parts and fluid at the line. But once you are willing to build the tranny up to transbrake levels, have fun :smile:
 
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Brian Hartman

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The tranny needs to be built a lot more that you most likely have it built. The tranny shop needs to have experience with the 4L60 Transbrake and building the tranny to last behind one. I wouldn't put a TransBrake in any tranny that wasn't built for it specifically.
 
Pittman

Pittman

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Yeha the guy could have done the work no prob. But frankly the bill was getting pretty big they way it was.
 
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Brian Hartman

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I'm not saying he couldn't do it. The guy could of done the work if he had the parts custom made that he needed but since he hasn't had experience with the 700 transbrake, he wouldn't know what parts to address any way. He would end up guessing and you would then become the lab rat and like you said, it gets really expensive if you have it built up really nicely. I would of made sure he bought the right parts because I will not sell a transbrake unless the supporting parts are included. That's all I need to hear is someone saying my transbrakes just break trannies when they don't, they will break improperly prepped trannies.
 
Pittman

Pittman

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the guys name is Mike McGee he's done everything to anything on trannys for different street rods and hopped up toys. He is no newbie to the 700R4. The only thing we were really worried about was the rest of the driveline taking the hit. The transfer case for example he was very skeptical about. He told me the same thing yeah it can be done but you will spend some major bill. So insted of doing that Im doing the headers headers back this month and when I get time, Ill do the heads

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Brian Hartman

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I'm not saying he couldn't do it, I'm saying if he was going to put a transbrake in it, he was going to have to develope it because this one is the only one that exists, that works anyway. You don't just pull it out of thin air because you want one. I would of heard if he had one. I didn't say he's a newbie but it seems everyone's tranny builder is a God unless you know enough to understand how much he really knows when you talk to him. I see it all the time and I am very rarely impressed. The one's that impress me are now my friends and we share info and ideas. I know the big hitters both this generation and the crotchity ol' timers from the golden age.

You definitely need to watch the front prop shaft first then the rear, then the rear diff, then the transfer case in that order ususally. Phil's drive shaft loops are highly recommended.

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