Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

Superjew

worthless piece of shit member
Ok, I attempted to build a mid-low 11 second MR2. I broke my first motor a year and half into ownership , it burned oil like there was no tomorrow, and it made my brand new .50trim turbo go bad as well.I dropped in a second motor and it ran right for a few days and felt like a 11 second car and then little shit just kept breakin on the new motor I spent $4000 dropping in, buying a new turbo, and it eventually gave me rod knock 8 months into owning it, ontop of dumping about $6000 in aftermarket parts like a .50trim turbo, fidanza flywheel, unsprung 6puck clutch, beefed up axles, motor mounts, attempted a linelock install etc. and labor worth of other stuff, and I originally bought the car for $6500.

Im thinking of selling off all my MR2 Turbo parts and forget ever trying to build another fast car again, Im gonna drop the extra buck for a turn key fast Syclone or MR2 Turbo. Im leaning towards Syclone right now, but for how much I spent on attempting to build a fast car, I coulda just bought a turnkey fast car no problem like a vette or LS1 FD RX7.

I want one with the works, roll cage, 2step rev limiter, and I want the previous owner to demonstrate it capable of crossing the quarter in under 11 seconds and Ill have $15000 or so waiting for him at the finish line in exchange for his truck.

The only reason I might lean towards MR2, is it can handle and brake like a Ferrari (60-0 in 107ft, .94g on the skidpad), and I already got $5000 in aftermarketparts I need to own a 10 second MR2, I just need to find one thats caged and has proper ecu and fuel system upgrades.

Im tired of building fast cars, cuz I got burned on my last one, Im Just gonna drop the extra buck and get a turnkey fast car.

BTW, my dream is to own both a 10 second Syclone with a trailer hitch to trailer my 10 second MR2 to the track, but Id be willing to go either way, this would be my first domestic, but seeing how unreliable and no expense was spared building my MR2, domestics cant possibly be any worse.

Until then, Im toodling around in a stock miata, its a lot cheaper legal fees wise and gives me much cheaper repair bills when it does break.
 

turboj91

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

For many reasons, stick with the MR2. Can't tow your MR2 with a Sy if the Sy was stock let alone modded to run the times you want.

Check out this site http://www.jannettyracing.com

They have a MR2 that runs hard and doesn't break. Let him mod your current car. It's the way to go.

Take some time to read this site to see what these trucks are all about. Simply put, they are not normal. Spend a few hours and read, read read. Then call Ted and get hooked up.
 

CavScout

Member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

BTW, my dream is to own both a 10 second Syclone with a trailer hitch to trailer my 10 second MR2 to the track, but Id be willing to go either way, this would be my first domestic, but seeing how unreliable and no expense was spared building my MR2, domestics cant possibly be any worse.

You are not only barking up the wrong tree, you are in the wrong forest.

Syclone are sold with a set of four jackstands and the engine hoist is a dealer option.

But, good luck with your search...it is obvious you have done little to no research.
 

BoostedSUV

Active member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

How about 900hp 10sec mitsu 3000gt Vr4 fully built? Runs mid 10's with a full interior and has roll cage already in it. I'm pretty sure my friend will let it go for $15k. He went through all the trouble trying to get it into the 10s and he finally got there.

If you or whowever you have building your stuff and its blowing up like they/you obviously have a lot to learn. Your parts don't sound like your issue, it's your tuning or other mods related. You're getting detonation from a bad tune or lack of fuel and you could spend another 10k and keep getting rod knocks with out the proper knowledge. I need to find people like you who want to just keep throwing away money to pay me to build their stuff...

Stay away from a Sy. Its not the vehicle for you and you obviously know nothing about them. They're barely designed to tow a jet ski let alone a another car!
 

BoostedSUV

Active member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

If you want a fast truck that can tow you MR2 buy a Lighting
 

Foot Performance

Donating Member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

Just checking to see if this is still a syclone forum???

I will tell you if you get a sub 11 second syclone you will love the thing from the first luanch. Reliablity to me is touchy if you build the truck right you will be fine (if you buy one that was done well in your case) but if you skimp on repairs and only fix bare minimum you will always have problems.

You will not be pulling your other car they just are not bult for it (nore is any s-series truck)

To me if you find a well built syclone that has a good tune you will love it
 

VermontTy

Support Our Troops
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

buy a foxbody mustang; you can get into the 11's with one for like $500 and you can beat the everliving shit out of it........forever......period.

A modded SyTy is as reliable as a politician's word.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

In General Syclone's are not turn key vehicles. If your truely looking for something turnkey, I would elsewhere. I am not saying your not going to find a 10 sec Sy for 15K but my guess it's not going to be as reliable as you would like. A turnkey 10 Second Syclone is going to cost a bunch of money to build and my guess is the consistent Syclone that you can mostly jump into and run a 10 sec run are going to sell for more than 15K because of the money invested.

A lot SyTy owner have expereince like you've had with MR2 trying to run 10's. We probably have a similliar amount of aftermarket support as the Mr2's do.
 

Superjew

worthless piece of shit member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

If you or whowever you have building your stuff and its blowing up like they/you obviously have a lot to learn. Your parts don't sound like your issue, it's your tuning or other mods related. You're getting detonation from a bad tune or lack of fuel and you could spend another 10k and keep getting rod knocks with out the proper knowledge. I need to find people like you who want to just keep throwing away money to pay me to build their stuff...

Stay away from a Sy. Its not the vehicle for you and you obviously know nothing about them. They're barely designed to tow a jet ski let alone a another car!

My only guess for why it gave me rodknock is either the oilpump quit working, or it was from one time when my boost hit 26psi (as opposed to 18psi) from having my wastegate diaphragm go bad.

And just because Im new to Syclones doesnt mean I should stay away from them, you would just as soon tell everyone thats new to them to stay away so no one will ever get into them.
 

Orr89rocz

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

wow didnt know the syty stuff was so unreliable? Is it the motor that doesnt hold? Or mainly just drivetrain?
Hope its not the computer system because thats what is controlling my twin turbo small block :)

I'd look for a cammed/nitrous Z06 myself, LSx is a true turn key reliable fast car. Find them all day long
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

wow didnt know the syty stuff was so unreliable? Is it the motor that doesnt hold? Or mainly just drivetrain?
Hope its not the computer system because thats what is controlling my twin turbo small block :)

I'd look for a cammed/nitrous Z06 myself, LSx is a true turn key reliable fast car. Find them all day long

It's lack of R&D and extremely low productions numbers, with almost no aftermarket support (most SyTy vendors do it as a side job to their currently established business.)

The computer system is okay, but could have been better, which is why Code59 was created. You are running Code59, not the original ECM code. :tup:
 

powercat6

Active member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

My only guess for why it gave me rodknock is either the oilpump quit working, or it was from one time when my boost hit 26psi (as opposed to 18psi) from having my wastegate diaphragm go bad.

And just because Im new to Syclones doesnt mean I should stay away from them, you would just as soon tell everyone thats new to them to stay away so no one will ever get into them.

They're not telling you to stay away, they are simply warning you. Time and time again people show up here with a truck they bought and a few months (or in some cases weeks) later the truck breaks down and the owner can't figure out the problem. A few months after that they either give up and sell it broken for cheap or it sits while the owner saves up money and goes through it thoroughly. I researched these trucks for years before I finally bought one a few weeks ago. I chose my truck because the owner is on here and knows how to care for SyTys and he had kept it stock and added some of the reliability upgrades. The 11 second trucks require even more attention than stockers and the stockers can be a handful at times.
 

Maxtor

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

If you are wanting more than one pass in the 10's in an AWD Syclone VIN truck you are going to need to step up with more than $15k. The internet can make it seem common, but in reality there are VERY few AWD Syclones actually "running" 10's. "Ran" 10's is a more common theme or "built to run 10's" is even more common.

I suppose anything may be possible, you may find someone who needs cash and is desperate. Personally, I can't imagine what financial situation I would have to get in to let my truck go for anywhere close to $15k.

A lot of time and $$ on goes in to making this platform go that fast and it requires a lot of time/money to maintain. Buy a Fox body, be happy.
 

syclone383

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

if you are wanting more than one pass in the 10's in an awd syclone vin truck you are going to need to step up with more than $15k. The internet can make it seem common, but in reality there are very few awd syclones actually "running" 10's. "ran" 10's is a more common theme or "built to run 10's" is even more common.

I suppose anything may be possible, you may find someone who needs cash and is desperate. Personally, i can't imagine what financial situation i would have to get in to let my truck go for anywhere close to $15k.

A lot of time and $$ on goes in to making this platform go that fast and it requires a lot of time/money to maintain. Buy a fox body, be happy.

x2
 

jpalmer

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

Well i am not trying to sound negative here but a Syclone that will run 10's reliably will cost more than 15g's. unless someone really needed out bad. it happens, just not often.

Second, if i had things over again i would have stuck with a Sy, but gone a different rought onmy motor of choice, and probably truck of choice. That being said,this is a great community who will look out for you and tell it like it is, sometimes sounding like dicks cause we get a new person every week wanting the same thing, 10 sec sy or ty, blah, blah, blah, and then they buy it , break it, sell it, or part it.

Anyways, you want reasonable priced vehicle that is fast and reliable, these are not them. I would definitely go c5 zo6 with some work if i really wanted a great, fast, reliable, and relatively inexpensive car. But i am a truck guy so i went the hard route.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

wow didnt know the syty stuff was so unreliable? Is it the motor that doesnt hold? Or mainly just drivetrain?
Hope its not the computer system because thats what is controlling my twin turbo small block :)

I'd look for a cammed/nitrous Z06 myself, LSx is a true turn key reliable fast car. Find them all day long

For one they aren't a turn key (plug and play) modifiable vehicle. An ideal syty owner is someone who keeps their stuff running 100%, always monitors their vehicle on scan tool and it is hands on DIYer.

What makes them unreliable.

Transmission- 700R's aren't meant to deal with 500ft-lbs+ (A good running stock turbo Sy/Ty with a chip will make that). AWD just add to the that with traction and additional rotational mass.

Engine- Stock Piston/Rods aren't the stongest in the world and don't hold up to poorly tuned motor. Further aggrevating this is

The stock ECM and MAP sensor doesn't compensate well for air flow changes,
The stock ignition wasn't designed for this application and needs replacement on modified engine with oil changes
The stock heads aren't very efficient for turbo application, stock timing is only 13-14 degrees at WOT and truck will have detonation with that much timing.
 

bezerk

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

but on the otherhand. beating any car on the street with an suv/pickup is priceless. and you can have a fun stock truck. but if you are wanting to go 11's you can't cut any corners if you want to keep it together. search for tooky how to make a budget 11's truck or www.powertuneplus.com
 

nello

Active member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

If you are wanting more than one pass in the 10's in an AWD Syclone VIN truck you are going to need to step up with more than $15k. The internet can make it seem common, but in reality there are VERY few AWD Syclones actually "running" 10's. "Ran" 10's is a more common theme or "built to run 10's" is even more common.

I suppose anything may be possible, you may find someone who needs cash and is desperate. Personally, I can't imagine what financial situation I would have to get in to let my truck go for anywhere close to $15k.

A lot of time and $$ on goes in to making this platform go that fast and it requires a lot of time/money to maintain. Buy a Fox body, be happy.

x3.

He's not kidding, he sounds like a superjew.
 

Orr89rocz

New member
Re: Thinking of getting a sub 11 sec Syclone

Wow learn something new every day... did not know that about these trucks...maybe thats why i dont see many running good. I just thought they were a GN with a 4.3 instead of a 3.8
 
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