2017 25th Annv. Typhoon 2 !!!

RAR1TY

RAR1TY

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Sounds good right?? I posted 2 years ago about this and no one really caught on. But I've thought about it. Besides the obvious ,(money), why couldn't GM build a TY 2 based on the Terrain? Take a GOOD look at a Terrain. Boxy, has built in flares, AWD, etc.... Why not drop a turbo 6 in it, suspension, leather, wheels, exhaust, two-tone paint and BOOM. TY 25.... Being a body shop owner, Id love to get my hands on a gutted/wrecked Terrain and do my magic. Call a few of you guys in to work yours under the hood, inside and underneath. Time and money. I don't have either. But somebody out there with loot would love this idea, and fund it right?? Just not GM...Imagine even just building a 1 off new Typhoon with all the goodies of the new technology, but the heart of the original.... Just something to smile about in your dreams tonight.
 
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Captain Morgan

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thats funny, I just found my mom a 2012 GMC Terrain SLT-2 about 3 weeks ago, its white with the titanium leather interior, every bell and whistle, chrome wheels, etc. and I was thinking the EXACT same thing.

Engine compartment would be a little cramped, but anything is possible with a plasma cutter :D

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Jay92Ty

Jay92Ty

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pearlredTY said:
Sounds good right?? I posted 2 years ago about this and no one really caught on. But I've thought about it. Besides the obvious ,(money), why couldn't GM build a TY 2 based on the Terrain? Take a GOOD look at a Terrain. Boxy, has built in flares, AWD, etc.... Why not drop a turbo 6 in it, suspension, leather, wheels, exhaust, two-tone paint and BOOM. TY 25.... Being a body shop owner, Id love to get my hands on a gutted/wrecked Terrain and do my magic. Call a few of you guys in to work yours under the hood, inside and underneath. Time and money. I don't have either. But somebody out there with loot would love this idea, and fund it right?? Just not GM...Imagine even just building a 1 off new Typhoon with all the goodies of the new technology, but the heart of the original.... Just something to smile about in your dreams tonight.
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That would be SICK! I've thought of GM doing a newer version of the Ty with this new technology.I doubt they'll ever do it but I'm with you on this one:tup:
 
sytyguy

sytyguy

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Have you driven an LFX equipped Terrain/SRX/etc...? I have and even with the AWD, the torque steer is immense. That's a 301hp/272tq engine in a FWD layout that uses a CCM to demand AWD. I wouldn't want any more power than that combo offers as it's not really usable in a practical manner in that platform. At it's core it's still an overpowered, FWD based, 4000 lb SUV.

Having said all of that, I could see GM dropping the LF3 (or possibly the LF4) in the SRX and maybe Denali trims of the Terrain, but it'll be long after the ATS-V has been in production if ever. This would entail replacing the GT70 with the 6L45 at the very least, as the 6T70 has shown trouble coping with Ecotec power levels over long periods of time. Personally, I wouldn't hold out hope for a "Typhoon II" based on the GMT192 platform (or whatever replaces it).

And yes, we are proud owners of a 2014 Equinox, so I'm not hating on the Theta platform.
 
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GarnetTy1473

GarnetTy1473

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I'm pretty sure I saw a concept several years ago, or it might have just been a rendering of a Typhoon based on the Terrain, and it was 2 doors. Looked good too.
 
AUSyTyIN

AUSyTyIN

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Re: 2017 25th Annv. Typhoon 2 !!!

I've always considered the Trailblazer SS as a Chevy version of a Typhoon 2 :dunno: Too bad they didn't put the LS2 into an Envoy.
 
ziembic

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I swear this was like reading a coded message. I work in IT, and I don't think I have ever seen so many abbreviation in one op-ed.

Adrian Cronauer:
Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.

sytyguy said:
Have you driven an LFX equipped Terrain/SRX/etc...? I have and even with the AWD, the torque steer is immense. That's a 301hp/272tq engine in a FWD layout that uses a CCM to demand AWD. I wouldn't want any more power than that combo offers as it's not really usable in a practical manner in that platform. At it's core it's still an overpowered, FWD based, 4000 lb SUV.

Having said all of that, I could see GM dropping the LF3 (or possibly the LF4) in the SRX and maybe Denali trims of the Terrain, but it'll be long after the ATS-V has been in production if ever. This would entail replacing the GT70 with the 6L45 at the very least, as the GT70 has shown trouble coping with Ecotec power levels over long periods of time. Personally, I wouldn't hold out hope for a "Typhoon II" based on the GMT192 platform (or whatever replaces it).

And yes, we are proud owners of a 2014 Equinox, so I'm not hating on the Theta platform.
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sytyguy

sytyguy

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ziembic said:
I swear this was like reading a coded message. I work in IT, and I don't think I have ever seen so many abbreviation in one op-ed.
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Dammit! I swore I wouldn't deal with simple folk again. ;) :lol:

LFX - Base 3.6L V6 in use from 2012 and up. Varying power levels depending on what it's in (Camaro gets top output - 323hp/278tq).

LF3 - Twin-turbo version of the above engine. Lots of changes to allow for FI, not the least of which are a steel crank, 10.2:1 compression (down from 11.5:1), new block/heads and an intercooler. Currently in the CTS and XTS with the CTS getting the top output (420hp/430tq).

LF4 - Same as the LF3, but with optimized turbos, larger injectors and more boost (18 psi, up from 12 psi). Currently only slated for the ATS-V with 455hp/450tq.

6T70 - Current 6 speed Automatic Transmission used in many GM & Ford vehicles, including the Equinox/Terrain/etc... For use in transverse applications only and max rated for 315hp/280tq. 6T75 is max rated for 315hp/300tq.

6L45 - Longitudinal Automatic Transmission used behind the LFX in the XTS/ATS/Camaro/etc.... Mentioned only for the sake that it would allow the use of the non-transverse LF engines for the aforemention "Typhoon II". The real candidate would be the 6T80 transmission in use behind the LF3/LF4.

CCM - Clutch Control Module.

Theta - GM's compact and midsize SUV lineup. Includes vehicles as far back as the 2002 Saturn Vue, all the way to the current Equinox/Terrain/etc...

GMT192 - Subcategory of the Theta platform encompassing the Equinox/Torrent/etc...

SUV - Sport Utility Vehicle

FWD - Front Wheel Drive

AWD - All Wheel Drive


* I accidentally put GT70 in my earlier post. My LEET speak accidentally put a G in place of a 6. Corrected above.
 
ajt86

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I forget what year it was- but when I was working as a tech at dealers in the mid 2000s we had a service manual listed for a gmc typhoon. I believe it was the bankruptcy year. Since corperate uses the same online service manuals that the dealers use- they would sometimes publish service manuals on there a year or 2 In advance. I remember for about 6 months there was a typhoon listed problably for 2009 or 2010, when you entered the manual it was listed as a envoy with the LS3 in it, we guessed it was going to be a sister car to the TBSS but after the bankruptcy it disappeared off of the website
 
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TYGUY1

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Typhoon 2 would not be as successful. One of the main reasons the Ty was so highly regarded is because it could hang with the top performing vehicle of the day. That article about the Sy beating the Ferrari, created this cult following.
There is no way that any manufacturer today could produce a SUV or compact truck, to compete with today's Ferrari's.
Just making an SUV that does 0-60 in under 4 seconds would make it one of a half dozen or so performance SUV's today.
If they did make one, in my opinion, it would have to do the 0-60 in mid 3 second range, to even come close to creating the buzz our Sy and Ty's did in the early '90's.
 
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TYGUY1

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And an SUV with mid 3 second quickness, would not come cheap
 
ziembic

ziembic

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Hey, noseheldhighguy: I didn't say that I didn't understand it. I just thought it was funny. It made me think of Good Morning Vietnam.:rotf:

sytyguy said:
Dammit! I swore I wouldn't deal with simple folk again. ;) :lol:
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sytyguy

sytyguy

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ziembic said:
Hey, noseheldhighguy: I didn't say that I didn't understand it. I just thought it was funny. It made me think of Good Morning Vietnam.:rotf:
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Changing my screen name from sytyguy to noseheldhighguy. :rotf: I knew you'd understand it, I was just being an ass.
 
sytyguy

sytyguy

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ziembic said:
Us simple folk just want to know if it has a 3/4 cam in it.
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I had no idea you were that old. Local hot-rodder (and car flipper) still advertises his cars for sale with 1/2, 3/4, or full. I still chuckle a little bit when I see that.
 
Rob2000gt

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What truck can you order the LSA engine in? Whatever truck that is would be the ty 2
 
sytyguy

sytyguy

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I think a lot of this depends on how you define a Typhoon?

- Is it just a powerful AWD SUV?

- Or is it something rarefied & revolutionary on a number levels?

For the me, the SyTys were the latter. They combined a turbo, AWD, and 4WAL in a pickup/SUV, all the while throwing out the basic concept of a pickup/SUV. They threw lots of unique (to the model) stuff at it and set a high price that predestined limited production. The fact that GM had created such a unique & rare pickup that outperformed almost anything South of exotic is what drew most of us to them in the first place. Is an optional engine and trim level really going to recreate that in today's market? Nope, not IMO. If it would, then the AWD Trailblazer SS would all be considered by us as the Typhoon II. But it's not, and neither will a hotrodded version of the Terrain, Acadia, or Yukon.
 
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