CA Smog Test vs SyTy

jaystcb

Sy 0902, 92Ty 0909
It is that time again.

So here in Cali, We have an emissions test that measures
%CO 2, %O 2, HC (PPM), and CO (%) at idle and 2500 RPM.

This pic is from 2 years ago in MySy. PASSED brown wire connected. notice the idle.


So far what I have learned from the guys in the club is that SyTy's usually fail the HC test at idle. At idle our HC should have a measurement at or below 100HC.


On a stock Ty. NO data master, NO tuner pro. No wideband, STOCK chip. New cap, rotor, plugs @ .028, and oil change.

1st Test. Timing set at 0 deg. tdc with brown wire Connected. idle HC measured 164. (fail)

2nd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. below tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 390 HC (fail)

3rd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. above tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 66 HC (pass)

After the 3rd test with the brown wire disconnected. We reconnected the brown wire and tested again.

4th Test. Timing set at 2 deg. above tdc with brown wire CONNECTED. idle HC measured 190. (fail gross polluter).

The problem is, CA smog guys wont disconnect the brown wire to run the test. When the brown wire is connected the HC jump through the roof.

My Idea was to unplug the brown wire and take it in for smog. The problem is when the brown wire is disconnected, the check engine light goes on. CA smog guys wont pass a vehicle with a check engine light on. It use to be... If you grease them, they MIGHT overlook the light. But with restriction now. No SMOG test guy will risk his business or the fine for an extra couple zeros.

Another problem is if we get busted by a mobile smog check point. Your out of luck anyway.

NOW WHAT.

Someone please chime in with a SMOG HOW TO.

It would be nice if someone could come up with a brown wire relay hooked to a toggle that would bypass the check light when activated.
 

V8 Sonoma GT

Mile High SyTy
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

a switch wired to a relay could be very easily done. switch fire coil, run check engine light thru the contacts. could even have 2 sets of contacts, with the second set breaking the brown wire
 

Damian

Member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

I have the Hood tuned 3 Bar map tune and I passed with flying colors last year. I have a brand new 3" HFC though.
 

jaystcb

Sy 0902, 92Ty 0909
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

Can you post the rest of the readings for the Ty



2nd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. below tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 390 HC (fail)



3rd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. above tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 66 HC (pass)



4th Test did not come out.
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

Can you modify the chip to not disable the CEL with the brown wire disconnected? I think there is a flag for that in the chip.
 

Audio Man

New member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

WTF!!! I had no idea you guys in CA had random smog testing check points. That is insane!! If you turn around and go the other way do they chase you down like they would at a DUI check point? I mean you already have an emissions check to get your tag or however you have to do it in CA but then are subjected to random smog checks?? That's ridiculous!
I would not submit to the check. They have no probable cause to test your vehicle for anything. You haven't broken any law unless you had no tag or something. It should be illegal for them to touch your car without probable cause or reasonable suspicion.
If CA wants to get rid of smog then maybe they should push to do something about China spewing toxic air all over them. Here we are doing all this BS smog testing to generate revenue for each state, not to save the planet, and you have places like China that has no regulations on smog or anything else spewing out 6x the amount of pollution into the air.
 

Z SKI

Donating Member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

WTF!!! I had no idea you guys in CA had random smog testing check points. That is insane!! If you turn around and go the other way do they chase you down like they would at a DUI check point? I mean you already have an emissions check to get your tag or however you have to do it in CA but then are subjected to random smog checks?? That's ridiculous!
I would not submit to the check. They have no probable cause to test your vehicle for anything. You haven't broken any law unless you had no tag or something. It should be illegal for them to touch your car without probable cause or reasonable suspicion.
If CA wants to get rid of smog then maybe they should push to do something about China spewing toxic air all over them. Here we are doing all this BS smog testing to generate revenue for each state, not to save the planet, and you have places like China that has no regulations on smog or anything else spewing out 6x the amount of pollution into the air.

Yea, Its crazy over here... I have only seen one road side smog check point while out smashing the streets..

Good news is... they cant force you to take the test... Tell them to pound sand... They cant ticket you or force you to take the test :2cents:

See ya,
 

Damian

Member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

They have mobile smog machines that they setup shop like a DUI check point. They then "randomly" check vehicles. I'm glad I don't have my turbo Eclipse anymore. Too bad they never pull these POS cars/trucks that are driving around here.
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

#1 way to reduce emissions, impinge the residents rights so tightly that they all say fork it, and move to somewhere that isn't run by idiots......Reason #2,148,921 I won't be moving to CA.

Good luck fellas!
 

Damian

Member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

Dave, that's how they force you to get rid of your old car so you can buy a new one. You pay all that money n sales taxes, then you pay more every year on registration fees.

Im seriously contemplating on driving the Ty to NE so I can do the super simple inspection there and register it there. Since I don't want to get a ticket for driving a vehicle registered in NE with me having a CA license, Ill get a NE drivers license as well.
 

jaystcb

Sy 0902, 92Ty 0909
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kwik4u
#1 way to reduce productive citizens, impinge their rights so tightly that they all say fork it, and move to somewhere that isn't run by idiots, where they aren't burdened by unreasonable procedures and rules to the point they've had enough and take alternative actions.....
There, I touched it up a little for you Mike.

Well put Dave.

I bet I would pass if I opened my own CA smog station. I would call it SyTy SMOG Check.
 
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atkonkler

Is this your bush?
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

#1 way to reduce emissions, impinge the residents rights so tightly that they all say fork it, and move to somewhere that isn't run by idiots......Reason #2,148,921 I won't be moving to CA.

Good luck fellas!

They used to have this crap in Mn and then they figured out that it wasn't worth the cost on taxpayers and the state plus it was just a sham.... Even in the land of 10,000 liberal laws we get a break. Haha does anyone else think my governor MARK DAYTON is sedated whenever he speaks? Look at our state rep also AL FRANKEN....what joke...it's all a joke and corrupt.
 

eviltwin

"junkyard syclone"
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

I don't see how those emission check points are legal. There is case law giving allowing DUI check points but not for shit like this. I'd like to see what section of the CVC or any other code they would be able to detain you and cite or tow your vehicle for refusing to take the test.
 

Petesgn

Member
Re: CA Smog Test vs SyTy

2nd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. below tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 390 HC (fail)



3rd Test. Timing set at 2 deg. above tdc with brown wire disconnected. idle HC measured around 66 HC (pass)



4th Test did not come out.

What if you setting everything to base , timing 0 Brown wire connected etc and see what it looks like on the 5 gas ?
 
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