Did you get your Chip page workin Brian?

Daron

Active member
Ok... I have burnt an Ultimate .bin onto a chip and it seems to check ok (256K) etc.. Is there a way to verify that I have all the Ultimate information in the .bin from looking at it on programmer? When I pull it up on programmer it gives me a prom id code of 0x0F79, and displays addresses from 0x0000 to 0x081f. The address range is the same as a single program SyTy.bin I have. So, the stupid questions of the day are.. Which part of the ultimate am I seeing on programmer? If I were to make changes to the visable data, and save it, what would that do to the rest of the 3-bar chip?
Thanks,
Daron
(Just poking around ...)

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smeagol

Active member
When I pull it up on programmer

Are you referring to your programmer's software, or "PROMGRAMMER". Had to caps that for effect :wink:

You probably can't pull up a full 16 program binary file in PROMgrammer, you'd have to chop it up into 16 files for editing as well.

If you are double checking the file in your eprom programmer software, look at the program offsets. 0000, 4000, 8000, c000, 10000, 14000, 18000, 1c000, 20000, 24000, 28000, 2c000, 30000, 34000, 38000, 3c000 are all the beginning addresses for each chip program, in that order is how they toggle thru them on the Ultimate chip display as well. If you use that file merge program, just be sure to pick 16 programs to merge, and that the file comes out as the right size (256k).

Let me know if any of this is unclear.
 

Daron

Active member
On 2001-12-25 10:07, Red Canyonero wrote:
When I pull it up on programmer
Are you referring to your programmer's software, or "PROMGRAMMER". Had to caps that for effect :wink:

Uh... er duh, yeah PROMgrammer. See I told you all this was over my head :wink:

You probably can't pull up a full 16 program binary file in PROMgrammer, you'd have to chop it up into 16 files for editing as well.

Ok cool, it looks like I am just seeing one of the 16.

If you are double checking the file in your eprom programmer software, look at the program offsets. 0000, 4000, 8000, c000, 10000, 14000, 18000, 1c000, 20000, 24000, 28000, 2c000, 30000, 34000, 38000, 3c000 are all the beginning addresses for each chip program, in that order is how they toggle thru them on the Ultimate chip display as well.
OK sweet, that makes sense

If you use that file merge program, just be sure to pick 16 programs to merge, and that the file comes out as the right size (256k).

Hmm.. I dont have a single 3-bar .bin, can I just edit the Ultimate .bin in my programmer/burner software, delete everything before say 1c000 and delete everything at 20000 and after to isolate one particular program?

Let me know if any of this is unclear.

Thank you for the help Brian, hope you had a great Christmas.
 

smeagol

Active member
Hmm.. I dont have a single 3-bar .bin, can I just edit the Ultimate .bin in my programmer/burner software, delete everything before say 1c000 and delete everything at 20000 and after to isolate one particular program?


Yes, you can do that in the eprom programmer's hex editor, or you can download them for free (www.download.com search for hexeditor). So, if you wanted the program at 20000, you could either delete everything but the 20000 to 24000, or you could cut 20000-24000 and paste it to a new document, save that file as a new binary file. Check that you did it ok by verifying the file size, and compare the beginning and end of the hex file. The Prom ID should reflect the program, aka 116 = T1 16psi.

Let me know if that works for ya.

Merry Christmas to you too..

here's my favorite gift so far:
http://www.chitownsyty.com/bg/DCP_0699.JPG
 

Daron

Active member
here's my favorite gift so far:
DCP_0699.JPG

Lol!!!
Those are nice.

Thanks for the tips. I will try them tomorrow.
 

Daron

Active member
I seem to like this hex editor called "Hex workshop".

http://www.hexworkshop.com

Ok, so promid of 15 is the security mode of the ultimate?

Thanks,
Daron

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Daron

Active member
I seem to like this hex editor called "Hex workshop".

http://www.hexworkshop.com

Ok so help me out here. On PROMgrammer for the .bin I have the PROMID the value is: 0x0F79
or aka decimal 3961? Or is it decimal 15 for 0F and 121 for 79? What am I missing OB-one?
Thanks,
Daron

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Daron

Active member
On 2001-12-28 20:43, leroy wrote:
It's 3961. 3961 should show up as the prom ID on Diacom.

Jim

Thanks Jim. This has been an interesting process. I have burned a few chips now, and have tried the boost scaling hack that BG suggested. I am interested in giving my truck a tad more timing below 2800 rpm, but am not sure hacking away at the main timing table is a healthy way to go about for a newbie to chip hacking.
 

leroy

Donating Member
Just limit your changes to 1 or 2 degrees at a time. The main timing table is where you want to make changes.

I was scared to change just one byte when I first started.

Jim
 

BillC

New member
Howdy,

Depending on which eprom burner you use, you may not need a separate hex editor. The EMP-11 from Needham's that I use came with Windows software that has a fairly easy-to-use hex editing window that allows you to import and export data of any size to and from files into any place in the memory space. This is different than their older burners, like the EMP-10 that BG uses, which came with DOS software.

I realize most of you already have burners :) but thought someone might find it useful if you ever need to upgrade or give recommendations.
 
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