Hidden VIN's
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warmpancakes
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Re: Hidden VIN's
Theres 5 vins on these trucks that i know of ill pm them over
Theres 5 vins on these trucks that i know of ill pm them over
syclomatic
Syclone #2481
Re: Hidden VIN's
Whoever knows where all the vins are, I would like to know as well. Shoot me a PM Pleazzz! :tup:
Whoever knows where all the vins are, I would like to know as well. Shoot me a PM Pleazzz! :tup:
THEMADTYPH00N
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Re: Hidden VIN's
Why can't we just post the locations for everyone to see?
Why can't we just post the locations for everyone to see?
DaveP
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Re: Hidden VIN's
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I saw this and thought " I have no idea where these are..." Then I saw this:
And thought "Actually I don't.." But maybe I do:
Here's what I DO know. I know of SIX locations where the VIN can be located on an un-molested truck. None of these are a 'secret': Engine, transmission, frame, SPID decal, door certification sticker, and the dashboard plate.
I have had several S/T 10 bodys (both utility and p/up) stripped to the metal. I don't recall ever finding a VIN on the body sheet metal. I have found 'crayon' job-number derivitives all over the place, usually behind various interior panels. The job number is that 4-digit number on the firewall behind the distributor that is with the paint code.
If anyone HAS indeed found a VIN (or derivitive) on the sheetmetal, I would be very interested to know about it :tup:
Happy Thanksgiving
Dave P
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warmpancakes said:
I saw this and thought " I have no idea where these are..." Then I saw this:
Merk said:
And thought "Actually I don't.." But maybe I do:
Here's what I DO know. I know of SIX locations where the VIN can be located on an un-molested truck. None of these are a 'secret': Engine, transmission, frame, SPID decal, door certification sticker, and the dashboard plate.
I have had several S/T 10 bodys (both utility and p/up) stripped to the metal. I don't recall ever finding a VIN on the body sheet metal. I have found 'crayon' job-number derivitives all over the place, usually behind various interior panels. The job number is that 4-digit number on the firewall behind the distributor that is with the paint code.
If anyone HAS indeed found a VIN (or derivitive) on the sheetmetal, I would be very interested to know about it :tup:
Happy Thanksgiving
Dave P
up2nuthingud
looking for a TY
Re: Hidden VIN's
i know this may be a bit of a stretch, but i just stripped an 88 iroc camaro to restore, and every body panel had a vin sticker on it. i wonder why they did it on that p.o.s and not a limited edition vehicle ike the sy/ty?
i know this may be a bit of a stretch, but i just stripped an 88 iroc camaro to restore, and every body panel had a vin sticker on it. i wonder why they did it on that p.o.s and not a limited edition vehicle ike the sy/ty?
warmpancakes
New member
Re: Hidden VIN's
remember our trucks we sold to pas as unassembled vehicles so they wouldnt have vins applied to the body panels plus trucks wernt hi theft back then , I have found no vin any where on my syclone (stripped to bare metal) or the typhoon completely gutted interior
remember our trucks we sold to pas as unassembled vehicles so they wouldnt have vins applied to the body panels plus trucks wernt hi theft back then , I have found no vin any where on my syclone (stripped to bare metal) or the typhoon completely gutted interior
warmpancakes
New member
Re: Hidden VIN's
the frame is stamped at the assembly plant with the last 8 as it comes down the line to ensure the correct body/ motor/ frame all come together on the same vehicle, they are on 3 differnt lines that come together later down the main line chassis middle, engine comes in from above then the body comes from paint and is installed on top with the complete interior installed, Thats how its done now really cool process to watch But we have to number everything cause theres some morons at the assembly plants
the frame is stamped at the assembly plant with the last 8 as it comes down the line to ensure the correct body/ motor/ frame all come together on the same vehicle, they are on 3 differnt lines that come together later down the main line chassis middle, engine comes in from above then the body comes from paint and is installed on top with the complete interior installed, Thats how its done now really cool process to watch But we have to number everything cause theres some morons at the assembly plants
BigBadSmoosh
Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Hidden VIN's
same thing, didn't find a vin on my ty or my sy body..
warmpancakes said:
same thing, didn't find a vin on my ty or my sy body..
up2nuthingud
looking for a TY
Re: Hidden VIN's
thats why i like this place, i learn something daily!
thats why i like this place, i learn something daily!
DaveP
Active member
Re: Hidden VIN's
They were sold as "Incomplete". What this means is that they could not be certified at the time of delivery BY GM to be in compliance with "ALL applicable laws and safety standards for the current model year at the time of manufacture". This is because they were shipped with out bumpers and seats. (Along with a few other cosmetic items). Bumpers and seats have 'safety compliance issues' associated with them.
That's why the certification label in the door jamb was applied by PAS. PAS, as the final manufacturer, was also certifying the vehicle to NOW be in compliance, when shipped.
Happy Thanksgiving
DaveP
Not entirely accurate.warmpancakes said:
They were sold as "Incomplete". What this means is that they could not be certified at the time of delivery BY GM to be in compliance with "ALL applicable laws and safety standards for the current model year at the time of manufacture". This is because they were shipped with out bumpers and seats. (Along with a few other cosmetic items). Bumpers and seats have 'safety compliance issues' associated with them.
That's why the certification label in the door jamb was applied by PAS. PAS, as the final manufacturer, was also certifying the vehicle to NOW be in compliance, when shipped.
Happy Thanksgiving
DaveP
DaveP
Active member
Re: Hidden VIN's
"Hidden" in this context, means that the average Joe doesn't know where it is. Kind of like the frame stamp. It's in different places on the Sy, 4-door and 2-door. If you don't know where to look, you won't find it with the body installed. I'll bet there's only a few people on here that know where the frame stamp is on their truck. And yes, it IS in our best interest NOT to post where they are.:fuzz:
BUT, this IS detectable. Especially to Law Enforcement, many which are specially trained to be suspicious of, and look for this kind of activity. And it would still be a 'salvage title'.
Anyway, Regards,
DaveP
This is what I mean by "derivitive"Jimmy said:
But it would have to be placed there with a stamp jig. A fixture with letters and numbers, that are changed for each vehicle, and THEN ( this is important to note): Hit with a hammer to make the impression. If you can "hit it with a hammer" it isn't 'hidden' when you take the truck apart to the metal. There are three guys here that have all testified that they did NOT find a VIN stamp on the sheet metal, when they had a truck completely disassembeled.Jimmy said:
"Hidden" in this context, means that the average Joe doesn't know where it is. Kind of like the frame stamp. It's in different places on the Sy, 4-door and 2-door. If you don't know where to look, you won't find it with the body installed. I'll bet there's only a few people on here that know where the frame stamp is on their truck. And yes, it IS in our best interest NOT to post where they are.:fuzz:
Jimmy said:
BUT, this IS detectable. Especially to Law Enforcement, many which are specially trained to be suspicious of, and look for this kind of activity. And it would still be a 'salvage title'.
Anyway, Regards,
DaveP