Idea for extended Typhoon test drive.

[Spinall4]

Alright guys there's a 93 black/black for sale about 1 hr 15 minutes from me.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.j...&advanced=n&start_year=1984&color=&cardist=43
I looked at it about 2 months ago, and the price was just to high(flyer said 16,500, autotrader said 15,000 and he said he would come down to 14,000 for it). its got 82,000 ish miles on it, fair amount of modds(ATR exhaust, aquamist W/I, Greddy type s bov, autometer gauges, AFPR, the old ultimate chip) but the guy that owns it really has no idea what the hell he's doing when it comes to tuning. He has a some sort of scan tool, but was clueless as to some simple shit wrong with the truck (IE he said he didn't like the greddy bov beacuse it "doesn't work", but as soon as I drove it I could hear the compressor surge and could tell its just adjusted to tight.) The price was way too high for an 82,000 mi truck- but it does appear to be in good contion. Problem was, it hasn't been registed for about a year. I got to drive it maybe 1-2 miles, just a little on the freeway, and 1 good awd launch. With his wife following us in her little pos car trying to keep up. The front end felt "loose" like it needed work. Since the price has come down to 13,000 list I've started thinking about it again. If I can get it for 11,500 or 12,000 even that would seem about right to me. So, what I plan to do is offer this guy to pay his registration to make it current and liscenced (if I buy the truck, I would have to do this anyways, and if its already been done in the last three months you don't have to re smog test it) if he's willing to let me take the truck for a day, and let me see how it really feels. I would like to test it out going up a local canyon, see how it handles. Have Liberty syclone come over and check it out, bust out the scan tool and check it, do a compression test, take it to a local mecanic and get it up on a lift so I can look under it. I would probably leave him my Talon to drive for collateral. My question is, what do you guys think of the truck, the price, and my idea? am I asking too much?

 

[odium]

It doesn't hurt to ask, but if I were the seller, I would be a little sketched out. It sort of sounds similar to the yellow/purple typhoon situation in a way...

Ask and see. Simple enough!

 

[Syclone#1992]

To tell you the truth, if I was the owner, I wouldn't let anyone take my truck for the whole day without buying it. God only knows what the buyer could do with it for that long.

Thats just me. Plus I wouldn't want someone to waste my time, and end up not buying the truck after all that trouble.

 

[Spinall4]

Problem is I've got this sneaking suspicion that maybe the reason its not registered is that it won't pass emmissons. Plus I'm tired of getting bent over on used cars that have 204830843084 more things wrong with them then I noticed when I bought it. I guess it just depends on weather he really wants to sell it or not.

 

[JSM]

Even without tabs it is a minor non moving violation with a fine around $60. Or so that is what I have been told.

I doubt he would let you take it for the day. A trip to get an emission test done wouldn't be bad. Even if it didn't pass you would know how far away it was.

 

[Spinall4]

Even without tabs it is a minor non moving violation with a fine around $60. Or so that is what I have been told.

I doubt he would let you take it for the day. A trip to get an emission test done wouldn't be bad. Even if it didn't pass you would know how far away it was.

Ya thats what I thought, but the owner said somthing about how they can now impound your vehical if you get busted driving it with out registration. I don't even think I would mind if he came along with me for all the stuff I want to do, but he seemed like a busy guy. Don't you guys just get tired of all the shit thats wrong when you buy a car that you didn't notice before hand? I want to go over this sob with a fine toothed combe

 

[JSM]

Another option, not sure all states have it is a trip permit.

In WA it was like $8 for 3 days or something.

Lots of people with motor homes would buy them for the 3 trips per year they were taking -vs- $1500/yr car tags.

Then you are fully legit.

I would get a trip permit, tell guy you want to go for a drive, take it through emissions, and put 50 miles on it or so before making commitment. If he wants to go or feels safe with you have truck fine. If he doesn't want truck gone that much, move to another. Being gone a day is a bit more than you can expect though. I wouldn't waste the guys time if your just kicking tires though. I know it pisses me off when others do it the few times I have sold a car.

 

[skwayb]

Not to Hijack the thread.... but Jeff try $26 - $30 dollars now and some places will even make you fill out the date immediately before they will let you take the permit. Also they are marking the number of the permit in the computer to be only valid for 90 days so if you use it after that and get pulled over, you get a nice fine. I just went through this 3 months ago when I got my Typhoon registered again. The trip permit I got the year before was $12 and none of this crap was going on. WA State realized that some people were just buying the trip permit, never filling out the dates and driving it every day. Just like you mentioned. So this loop hole will probably be totally closed soon since our tabs went to a flat fee of $30 a year.

 

[Spinall4]

Another option, not sure all states have it is a trip permit.

In WA it was like $8 for 3 days or something.

Lots of people with motor homes would buy them for the 3 trips per year they were taking -vs- $1500/yr car tags.

Then you are fully legit.

I would get a trip permit, tell guy you want to go for a drive, take it through emissions, and put 50 miles on it or so before making commitment. If he wants to go or feels safe with you have truck fine. If he doesn't want truck gone that much, move to another. Being gone a day is a bit more than you can expect though. I wouldn't waste the guys time if your just kicking tires though. I know it pisses me off when others do it the few times I have sold a car.

Stuipd ghey Utah. They used to offer temporay 3 day permits for about 15 $, but now what they require you do to is pay the full fee for registration up front(about 120$ for a newer car) then you get a temp permit so you can take it to be smogged and safetyed, and then you get your permiant tags. Plus say you've not had your car registere for 11 months beacuse of a blown motor. When you in to pay that full years registration, you only get a new year sticeker so the old month stays on there and you pay for a years registration to drive it for another month till you have to renew it again.

I've wanted a sy/ty for over 2 years now, but I just can't ever seem to put a deal together beacuse all I ever see for sale are trucks that have been driven into the ground, and people want 204730478304808$ for. I really want to get a feel for this truck, beacuse I'm almost sure it needs front end work- and I don't mind that, I'm just not going to pay the price of a truck thats in pristeen condition, only to have it need thousands of dollars worth of work.

 

[odium]

If you are that concerned about the status of the Typhoon, ask him to drive it to a shop and have them look over it if you don't know what to look for. It sounds like you were already planning this, but it shouldn't take an entire day to see if the truck is in good condition or not.

If I were selling this truck, I would be wierded out that you want to take it for the day, but would be more than welcome to have a mechanical check and scan performed. I would want to be there with you, however..

If everything doesn't check out, walk away or talk to the owner about it. $11000 to 12500 sounds cheap for a truck that sounds like it's in good condition with those modifications.. I'm surprised he went down that low. The right buyer will come, people just need to learn patience.

 

[Ty0279]

I don't think this guy is going to 'loan' you the truck for a day to test drive. It would be nice for you, but I think there are very few people who would agree to it.

Looking the truck over, getting under it, compression test, datamaster runs, etc. is enough to know if the truck is running well or not.

 

[Spinall4]

lets see if I can remember all the info. The best 1/4 time he has run in it is 14.2. It did give us a healthy launch, but the truck should be quicker than low 14's with all those modds. The exterior is clean, but not spotless(I would give it 7 out of 10) will probaly need new tires before long, rims needed a good scrub. Looked like some of the clear coat was comming off them. He's had the plugs,wires, igniton on for a while(like 2+ years) so It will need a fresh tune up, I don't think he mentioned a fuel pump so It will need a walbro, plus the front end work. It just felt "loose" when I was driving it on the freeway. Definaly no where near as tight as where I would want it. He didn't seem to have any recipts but said it had castrol syntec for oil changes. The truck has been for sale for over a year. That tells me he wanted too much for it. I think he's starting to get serious about selling it. I don't want to cheat him, but I do not want to get bent over on a truck that has 0280850835 problems that are wating to surface.

 

[90stangGT]

lets see if I can remember all the info. The best 1/4 time he has run in it is 14.2. It did give us a healthy launch, but the truck should be quicker than low 14's with all those modds. The exterior is clean, but not spotless(I would give it 7 out of 10) will probaly need new tires before long, rims needed a good scrub. Looked like some of the clear coat was comming off them. He's had the plugs,wires, igniton on for a while(like 2+ years) so It will need a fresh tune up, I don't think he mentioned a fuel pump so It will need a walbro, plus the front end work. It just felt "loose" when I was driving it on the freeway. Definaly no where near as tight as where I would want it. He didn't seem to have any recipts but said it had castrol syntec for oil changes. The truck has been for sale for over a year. That tells me he wanted too much for it. I think he's starting to get serious about selling it. I don't want to cheat him, but I do not want to get bent over on a truck that has 0280850835 problems that are wating to surface.

The statement holds true especially with these trucks that you get what you pay for. If you are looking for a truck that needs nothing you will pay top dollar. Look at some of the trucks in the for sale section that are owned by respected members and see that they are asking a healthy amount for their trucks. You have to remember that these trucks are 11-13 years old, shit breaks and wears out. As for the truck being for sale for a year, that don't mean much as these trucks are not desirable to everybody, hell most people don't even know what they are. Not to offend you but it seems like you expect the truck to perfect and get a deal on it. I bought by project 92 last december and I heard the motor fire for the first time today.

 

[odium]

^--- good post.

 

[Spinall4]

lets see if I can remember all the info. The best 1/4 time he has run in it is 14.2. It did give us a healthy launch, but the truck should be quicker than low 14's with all those modds. The exterior is clean, but not spotless(I would give it 7 out of 10) will probaly need new tires before long, rims needed a good scrub. Looked like some of the clear coat was comming off them. He's had the plugs,wires, igniton on for a while(like 2+ years) so It will need a fresh tune up, I don't think he mentioned a fuel pump so It will need a walbro, plus the front end work. It just felt "loose" when I was driving it on the freeway. Definaly no where near as tight as where I would want it. He didn't seem to have any recipts but said it had castrol syntec for oil changes. The truck has been for sale for over a year. That tells me he wanted too much for it. I think he's starting to get serious about selling it. I don't want to cheat him, but I do not want to get bent over on a truck that has 0280850835 problems that are wating to surface.

The statement holds true especially with these trucks that you get what you pay for. If you are looking for a truck that needs nothing you will pay top dollar. Look at some of the trucks in the for sale section that are owned by respected members and see that they are asking a healthy amount for their trucks. You have to remember that these trucks are 11-13 years old, shit breaks and wears out. As for the truck being for sale for a year, that don't mean much as these trucks are not desirable to everybody, hell most people don't even know what they are. Not to offend you but it seems like you expect the truck to perfect and get a deal on it. I bought by project 92 last december and I heard the motor fire for the first time today.

The economy has been on a down turn for a while. "toys" have all come down in price lately. You can get a C5 for under 20k now. I have looked the for sale section. There are plenty of people that want flat out too much money for their trucks. I've talked to Erue about buying his truck many times. I can get his 62,000 mi Ty for 12,000$ and it has a brand new J Waller tranny in it. Problem is its about a 3000 mile round trip out there and back with a uhaul trailer. Now if I can get a typhoon from a respected board member for 12k with 20,000 less miles on it, from a guy I trust alot more than some joe who's not even a member of this board, why should i pay more for this other truck?

 

[dgoodhue]

I've wanted a sy/ty for over 2 years now, but I just can't ever seem to put a deal together beacuse all I ever see for sale are trucks that have been driven into the ground, and people want 204730478304808$ for. I really want to get a feel for this truck, beacuse I'm almost sure it needs front end work- and I don't mind that, I'm just not going to pay the price of a truck thats in pristeen condition, only to have it need thousands of dollars worth of work.

This is just my opinion.... In the last 2 years you haven't found a nice reasonably priced Typhoon FS? Are you limiting your search to the local area?

I know that in the last year i have found 4 Ty's that seem to be in really nice shape for around $10-12K with 60-80K miles, all of them seem to be in excellent shape (I wish I had the money and good enough reason for the wife) and stayed on the market for a months. (they were probably more as I don't want a black Ty) Their have been a couple of SyTy that have sold almost immediately for what is almost a steal. The truck your looking at isn't what I would consider a steal either. If you not mechanically inclined a full front end rebuild is going to cost over $1K. The was a 93Ty in Ky with 95K miles that was selling for with 95K mile for 8500 the longest time. If you willing to sepnd a few extra dollar to $14K their are 2 nice looking Garnett and one Radar Blue Ty's which are super rare colors and are desirable colors (as oposed to teal) and not much more expensive than your 93 Black Ty that needs work and is the one color that almost half the Ty's were painted.

As for long distance Ty's, I would first have a independent person who owns a syty check it out, buy a one way flight (southwest is good for this) and drive it back.

 

[odium]

A two way flight would be better. Not only is it a lot cheaper, but you also have the ability to walk away.

That's what I did when I finally bought my Ty.

 

[90stangGT]

The economy has been on a down turn for a while. "toys" have all come down in price lately. You can get a C5 for under 20k now. I have looked the for sale section. There are plenty of people that want flat out too much money for their trucks. I've talked to Erue about buying his truck many times. I can get his 62,000 mi Ty for 12,000$ and it has a brand new J Waller tranny in it. Problem is its about a 3000 mile round trip out there and back with a uhaul trailer. Now if I can get a typhoon from a respected board member for 12k with 20,000 less miles on it, from a guy I trust alot more than some joe who's not even a member of this board, why should i pay more for this other truck?

My point exactly. I wouldn't let far distance stop me from getting the truck I wanted. I did a 2000 mile round trip to buy my mustang to Iowa. You can arrange to rent a U-haul from the city the vehicle in question is located so you only need to tow one way. I think it was like 200 or so to rent from Des Moines Iowa to Dearborn Michigan. Then you just drop off the trailer at your local U-haul place.

C5s are now up to 7 years old now. With the new C6, they are going to depreciate a bit more.

 

[Spinall4]

the point was E Rue wanted my talon in trade. U Haul quoted me 1500$ for just renting the trailer. Told em I wanted to rent the damn thing, not buy it. :roll: I've been limiting the search localy to about 300-400 miles. I drove 700ish miles in one day to look at a sy that was listed on ebay as "perfect conditon" only to get there and find the clading had be painte, the parts were replaced with unpainted clading, the tail gate had a huge gash in it, front bumper had been hit and was chipping badly, truck ran extremly rough at idle. These are all things I don't mind, but not what I expect when I got to look at a perfect truck, and priced as such(I think they wanted around 14-15k for the sy). I do not want to fly 1000 miles to see a truck only to find out there's millon things the owner lied about. I am mecanicaly inclined, but there are certin things you know to look for that only come from owning a vehical (which is why I wanted to bring it up here so I can have a local syty friend take a look at it. If I bought this typhoon it would pretty much get a ZQ8 steering box, renz's shaft, rebuild the front end to get rid of all that slop, maybe the JS coil over setup. I don't mind the work, but I do mind paying that much for a truck just to have to dump that much more money into it right after buying it. Thats what I was trying to point out.

dgoodhue- I'm not realy a fan of the radar blue, but I wouldn't mind the garnett. My favorite color has to be Green/Grey when the grey is repainted green. But I also like the White/Whites and Black/Blacks. I realy don't care about having a rare color, my talon is about one of only 8 built in 98 w/auto, awd, and in the Paprika Red Pearl. With all the different options factored in (no sunroof, lsd rear end) its pretty much one of a kind. And you know what happens? my freinds mom backs into the fender. :roll:

 

[Spinall4]

Price has come down to 12,000 list. I'm thinking offering him 11,000 and moving up to 11,500. Is there anyone on here that feels 11,500 is too much for the truck? I know when I got my first dsm it was below blue book, but I still payed way too much for it. I just don't want to get ripped off again. I'm planning on taking liberty syclone along to look at the truck with me. Maybe I'll own a sy/ty soon.