IRS conversion...coming soon

GM tech

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Wife got new car and I finally got the TB SS. Time to start last project:install C4 corvette Dana 44 into my Ty.
Already installed RPM coil over,converted to ZF-S6 6speed trans and dumped AWD and components.Far from stock engine and now interior due to lack of center console. Stock stopped being a concern awhile ago.
Love the 6speed and the fuel economy that comes with it,much more fun to drive and 20 mpg average is pretty good for a modded Ty.(low 14mpg was the best w/auto).
Not trying to make a track vehicle at all,just want something that suits my needs and is a little unique.
Anyone every tried this before??? Any thoughts or opinions.
 

mattw

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Re: IRS conversion...coming soon

Post lots of pics. I've always wanted to see this done on a Ty and I've wondered how it would perform compared to the stock rear setup and/or a 4-link setup with coil-overs. I wish that your ty was still AWD and auto so that we could see the results in that config but this will do.. :tup:
 

Blazerspeed

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Re: IRS conversion...coming soon

There was a guy that went by the name Grappler on V8S10.org, and I think he's on protouringS10.com as well. He started a C4 conversion on one of his S10 projects. I would say start with him as last time I was on V8S10.org he was almost done. Hope that helps.
 

ziembic

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Re: IRS conversion...coming soon

post lots of pics. I've always wanted to see this done on a ty and i've wondered how it would perform compared to the stock rear setup and/or a 4-link setup with coil-overs. I wish that your ty was still awd and auto so that we could see the results in that config but this will do.. :tup:

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Blazerspeed

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No I wasn't at all, but damn if that isn't some serious work on that Cameo. I'm going to have to read through it to see what all was done to make it work. Thanks for the late night reading! :tup:

http://www.v8s10.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=9304&start=20

That is the individual I was talking about. Actually your link may be more beneficial as he was using a stock frame. I forgot the Grappler truck ended up getting a completely custom frame to utilize a C4 front suspension as well.

EDIT: damn looks like you need to be logged in, here is a link to his website that has all of his trucks http://www.vettel.org/andy/
 
Re: IRS conversion...coming soon

i thought about using the c5 irs, its expesive and weaker then the stock 10bolt but defitnately worth it around the turns. but i wonder how hard that thing will launch?
 

Blazerspeed

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Re: IRS conversion...coming soon

So since this was brought up, I've been looking into it more and more. Now I will state right out that I am very unfamiliar with the corvette IRS, so if there is something I'm not seeing, don't hold it against me. It does seem like a completely feasible swap, but definitely not for a part time/weekend wrench-er.

From what I've found so far, the C4 IRS, while not a direct bolt in, requires the least amount of fabrication (although still more than what many are willing to tackle by themselves) to install. Another option that I've found that a lot of mini truckers use the 80's Mazda RX-7 IRS. All the ones I've found using this set up have been air bag trucks. Personally I'm not a fan of air suspension, so I didn't do too much digging to find more info. Yet another option was the Lincoln mark VII. I haven't dug too much into this yet, but it is similar to the T-bird rear, except it uses an aluminum center section instead of the cast iron, which drastically reduces the weight. This is what was used on the original Grappler truck (stock frame) and if you look at the pics, the rear tires stuck way out (at least 2+ inches per side). I would imagine you could narrow the rear, but I'm guessing this would adversely affect the handling characteristics.

Back to the C4 stuff - The range for these rears seems to cover 1984 to 1996, with a change in the E-brake assemblies from 87 to 88. I can't find anything too specific, but it looks like the 84 - 87 rears had the parking brake in the rotor, and the 88 - 96 rears had it in the caliper.

The two options I've found for the rear were a Dana 36 and a Dana 44, and it looks as though these were common through out the C4 production line. I believe these were both 10 bolt rears, but again this might be incorrect.
It looks like the Dana 36 was available in the slushbox corvettes, and the common gearing was 2:79 to 3:07. I haven't found anything to denote if these were LSD rears, but regardless, the gearing would need to be changed.
The Dana 44 was the option for the manual C4's and the gearing ranged from 2:79 to 3:43 (3:42?). I would imagine the 3:43 is close enough to the 3:42 that it could work without any changes. These rears are apparently harder to come by than the Dana 36's, but there is more aftermarket support - at least according to a few corvette forums I dug through.

Of all the swaps I saw, 99% of them ditched the rear monoleaf in favor of a set of coilovers. I would imagine you are going to have to shorten the rear half shafts in order to get this to sit correctly, but just like the T-bird/Lincoln rear, I would imagine this will mess with road feel.

Now, I know we have a resident corvette expert on the board *cough* DaveP *cough* so if he wants to correct any of my info I would appreciate it.

Finally, if you did decide to go this route, there are plenty of rears available on Ebay, for between $500 and $800. These look to be the Dana 36's, and the few Dana 44's I came across were in the neighborhood of $1500. These were for complete rears, so add in whatever cost for additional fabrication to make it work.

Hope this helps a bit :tup:
 
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