Looking for 3 bar .bin...

[deepsix]

Hey all,
I am looking for a 3 bar .bin for a syclone computer. I am in the process of building a killer 2.5 Chrysler 4 cylinder turbo motor(equipped with DOHC Dodge Neon head, etc!)and I am using a GM computer system, more specific the 1227749 ECM because of the great aftermarket support and a huge following(like this one ) that makes it much easier to tune versus the stock Chrysler electronics(very little support, no one shares ANYTHING with each other, info, cals, nothing!).
I have a decent understanding of the GM computer system and do realize that any 3 bar calibration is not going to be a drop in by no means, but when you are dealing with a 4 cylinder, 15 lbs of boost ain't gonna cut it , hence the need for a 3 bar calibration to start with!
Any help is appreciated and always welcomed!
Thanks in advance!

Mike Schwochert

 

[Turbo6]

e-mailed you one

 

[Razor]

Phillip,
Could I trouble you as well..never know when I may be able to help someone out as well.

My email is
Idoxlr8_70@yahoo.com

Thanks..

These are the 27256's rite? We use the 2732's in ours.

Julio

 

[smeagol]

It irks me, on some level, to have people passing around 3 bar programs right in front of me on the board. If it's people I know, no worries, but when unkown people come on here...

No disrespect Julio - but what does help someone out mean? Burn them a free chip ?

(dig yer alky stuff btw)

 

[Razor]

If you need a TTA or GN image, ask. I'll give you something you can play with. This wont be used for "hey..3 Bar chip 4-sale".. but in the process of getting deeper into learning about the ecm's and the way things work on a Sy/Ty app... Hence why I asked. Actually wanted to see the changes made to the stock vs aftermarket chips as to its response with the different MAP sensor.

Case in point, working on GN's I will sometimes pull the chip out and install something different.. to see 1, how the car responds, two.. if any difference in the way the car responds... In laymans terms.

If all the 3 bar chips are the same and there are no differences, then it does me no good. Always thought of converting from the 7148 ECM to the MAP based ecm...

Thanks for the kit kudos..sorry if I asked for the wrong thing.. didnt know it was "protected". Our Buicks have certain images that are not traded, and will never be to keep those that spent the time developing them with $$$ to keep making newer improved versions. Case in point are the extender, ME-R, and others..that even if I had..would never give out.


Cheers..and oops

 

[smeagol]

I guessed your intentions were decent, but I just wanted to make a point.

The point is that anything 3 bar (that I know of) comes from my work. There are no aftermarket 3 bar chips other than ours. Nolan / Dig etc do custom cals based on the 3 bar code I've done and given them. They don't give out their custom calibrations to just anyone either, in the same respect, as they have time invested in those cals.

I think the best way to do it would be to make an obfuscated set of instructions for making your own 3 bar program. This way, anyone that would understand how to do the mods would also have to spend some of their own time, as well as understand what's going on in the ECM (on some level). After that, they might have a better respect, regarding pirating etc.

 

[Razor]

Thanks for the clarification. And thank you for stepping up to the plate and making something happen for these vehicles. I was totally unaware of the specifics in reguards to the 3 bar image. i have a high respect for the time involved in developing such code. Lord knows how many revisions I've made to my own chip..

Anyone need a chip, contact smeagol

Take care..

 

[deepsix]

It irks me, on some level, to have people passing around 3 bar programs right in front of me on the board. If it's people I know, no worries, but when unkown people come on here...

Well, I suppose I am the unknown when it comes to this discussion. Here is my reasoning of why I asked on this board. I have been watching this board for some time now, and I know who does what and I have seen that you are the "originator" of the 3 bar cal for the 7749 computer, but what would your reaction of been if I would of emailed you directly and asked you to supply me with a calibration for a totally custom Dodge 2.5 liter 4 cylinder running the GM computer system???? I have the feeling that you would of not of been any help to me, or told me to use the Chrysler computer system. I dont know for sure, but I have the feeling that I would of received an answer along them lines.
I don't mean to piss in anyones wheaties with this response and my posting, but I was in need of info that in my viewpoint, if I were to go to the manufacturer, I would of been denied or not helped. Like I said earlier, I could be 100% wrong, and you may be the biggest help I could ever receive, but after dealing with several turbo Dodge vendors with my calibration issues, you would see why: 1) I am using a GM computer sytem. 2)Why I asked on an open forum for the calibration.
I am not looking to make ANY money on my work, it is for my personal pleasure and knowledge gain and to make my car a custom 1 off piece!!!!
Again, peace all, I hope I didn't make any enemies with one post. I am fairly knowledgable of the GM computer system and maybe I can be of some help to a Sy/Ty board.

Mike Schwochert
'91 Dodge Spirit - 3.0 Liter V6, the daily driver
'92 Dodge Dakota - Neon headed 2.5 4 cylinder running GM electronics!
'99 Ram 2500 - Cummins diesel, 16.45's in the quarter, it's fun The tow vehicle for when the other junk dies!!