need bin info

black cat

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I finished my mods on my ty. went with a holset whc-1 3in downpipe and 50lb injectors. want to run it at 15 16 lb. anyone have a good starter bin . i ve dowloaded abin from code 59. daryl hoot bin.just want to know if any one has started with this bin. i,m starting it this saturday. one more ?. do i hook up my aem wide band output to the ecm or do i leave the stock narrow band.
 

sytyguy

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Re: need bin info

50s can be tricky to tune for, but even if Daryl's bin isn't close enough for you, you can start with the stock bin and lower the BPC until you get good AFRs at idle. Give it some pedal and observe the rest of the fuel curve. If it seems close, do a test drive and tune VEs. If the rest of the curve is rich, continue to lower BPC and alter idle VEs....if too lean, raise BPC and alter idle VEs. Really applies for any injector or fuel altering mod.

When tuning Delphi 50s, I prefer to raise BPC a little and lower VEs across the board. This will give you some VE headroom where needed. They seem to be quite pressure picky, and as a result, you'll notice that when you start to get into boost (or about 42-47 fuel psi dependent on base), they require a little more VE to cover them until you get more pressure on them (about 48-50 psi and up they seem to establish a good flow rate). It's a weird thing and not entirely an F77X issue, but the 4-5 sets of 50s I've tuned all show the same characteristics.
 

black cat

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Re: need bin info

much appreiciated.i,ve read the 50lbs were harder to work with. i,ll download the stock bin. does the stock bin work with the 3 bar that i,ve installed. thks again
 

sytyguy

Moderated User
Re: need bin info

Yeah, 60/65s are a much more desirable injector for their tune-friendly characteristics alone. 50s are tougher to get a clean idle, don't do as well at "holding a tune", and are much more pressure picky. But, they can be worked with just like any injector, and can support respectable power levels.
 

92AcademyPhooner

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Re: need bin info

Don't mean to hijack you thread, but since you're talking about injectors. . .
I have stock injectors and was wondering (w/ the rest of the engine/internals/turbos being stock) since i just bought all my code59 stuff, should i switch out my stock injectors for another set that i can mess with later if i want to improve an engine parts later on? How far will the stock injectors take me.
A side note: These injectors have been in there since the begining (110,000 mi) so should i just replace them anyways knowing that i'm going to want to improve things later on?

Thank you both and good luck with your stuff too :tup:
 

sytyguy

Moderated User
Re: need bin info

Depends on your school of thought.

Some believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.....and there's merit in that. Others would replace the injectors to ensure things are as optimal as possible. Both ways can be just as effective. My advice, if you're not adding any substantial mods anytime soon, stick with the stockers and tune. You can go plenty fast on stocker injectors with an AFPR and tuning. However, if you know that you're gonna be adding some substantial mods in the near future, go ahead and replace the injectors with 60s (if they support the power you want to make), especially if you're doing something that requires removal of the lower intake (cam, vortecs, etc...).
 

92AcademyPhooner

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Re: need bin info

thanks you guys.
I think i'll keep the stockers. They are 40lbs right? So you don't think it would be worth it to buys some new ones (brand new stock ones i mean). Like i said, these ones have all the 110,000 miles on it. I know i'm kind of convincing you all, but i think (at least right now) if i upgrade, it will just be port matching/polishing, one "stage up" turbo and maybe some headers. Nothing crazy as this is my daily driver.
If i do buy some stock replacement (same "lb") injectors, are there any companys that seem to better than others? Doesn't matter? Thanks again ya'll
 
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