Plug on stock turbo

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
What is this plug? How do you get it out? I am wondering if I took it out can I run my external WG from there? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Plug on stock turbo

TYTILIDIE said:
What is this plug? How do you get it out? I am wondering if I took it out can I run my external WG from there? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I think your talking about the plug in the turbine housing and it is simply spot welded in 3 places then pressed inot the housing.

you can try an extrnal setup from it but you will have to somehow press a pipe in there and weld it to the flat where the stock WG puck sits. then weld the pipe so it doesnt leak at the housing. it can be done but not easily and it prob wont look very good.
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Plug on stock turbo

jwaller said:
I think your talking about the plug in the turbine housing and it is simply spot welded in 3 places then pressed inot the housing.

you can try an extrnal setup from it but you will have to somehow press a pipe in there and weld it to the flat where the stock WG puck sits. then weld the pipe so it doesnt leak at the housing. it can be done but not easily and it prob wont look very good.

Im just really dreading putting it on the Xover pipe. I want as little bs possible. It just seems like a really convenient location. Are you saying it wold be hard with it out of the truck or in? Why cant I weld to the outside? Or is that what you are saying?
 

TurboTony

Active member
Re: Plug on stock turbo

Why not just port the stock turbine housing and deal with the overboost problem that way.

A few minutes with a carbide bit and no fabrictaion involved.

Tony
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Plug on stock turbo

TYTILIDIE said:
Im just really dreading putting it on the Xover pipe. I want as little bs possible. It just seems like a really convenient location. Are you saying it wold be hard with it out of the truck or in? Why cant I weld to the outside? Or is that what you are saying?

I'm saying it's a PITA any way you do it. take tony's advice and the same I've been doing for yrs port the stocker and dont worry about it. you will get great boost control then.
 

VermontTy

Support Our Troops
Re: Plug on stock turbo

John or Tony...do either of you have any before / after pics of the porting?
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Plug on stock turbo

ya check my site, I'll post it up when I find it but I dont have the time right this minute.
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Plug on stock turbo

Im not really having overboost at this time. But I may when I get my motor back together cause Im leaving the stinking CAT off. I need more top end. We'll see I guess. How much would it cost me to have a good shop port it?
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Plug on stock turbo

once the housing is off, shouldnt be more than $100 tops. it's quick work but it needs to be done right to be effective.
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Plug on stock turbo

As mentioned porting the turbo can go a LONG ways into proper boost control.

Building custom flange, downpipe that allows you to knock out the plug goes even further.

We run a open downpipe with stock wastegate, housing ported but actually have too much control in a sense when the flapper opens it dumps too much boost at times.
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Plug on stock turbo

JS Manufacturing said:
As mentioned porting the turbo can go a LONG ways into proper boost control.

Building custom flange, downpipe that allows you to knock out the plug goes even further.

We run a open downpipe with stock wastegate, housing ported but actually have too much control in a sense when the flapper opens it dumps too much boost at times.

So youre telling me that I can make a flange that goes directly back into the exhaust from that point and itll runn ok? How do you correct the fact that it can let too much out? Some kind of restriction maybe?
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Plug on stock turbo

Maybe not porting it would make up for this? Im also assuming you are talking about making it kind of like a PTE looking DP right? I am very interested in this but just want to make sure that I can achieve the same thing W/O using my Extrernal WG. I paid good money for it but the more I look at putting it in the more i feel like I just dont want the cluttter or whatevehassles come along such as tuning it.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Plug on stock turbo

TYTILIDIE said:
So youre telling me that I can make a flange that goes directly back into the exhaust from that point and itll runn ok? How do you correct the fact that it can let too much out? Some kind of restriction maybe?

Its still controlled by the puck. The problem in the factory setup is that it can't bleed off enough pressure in the front of the turbo (manifolds) to control boost steadily through the wasteagte passages. I imagine opening up the wastegate port all that section with flow free plus it has the old passage to use.

The free flowing exhuast overboost problems has to do with the turbo making too much boost too quickly for the restricted wastegate setup to react.
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Plug on stock turbo

There are pictures on my website of the downpipes I have built.

It isn't rocket science.

In the case here we ported the puck also, making it larger as well as extensive porting inside the housing. Even opening up a small amount drops boost quickly.

I had to readjust the chip tables to start with puck fully closed, and make small changes in order to work.

Several people have made downpipes for stock turbo's to remove the puck. There was a GP recently for some with some pictures even.
 

93ty475

Donating Member
Re: Plug on stock turbo

JS Manufacturing said:
There was a GP recently for some with some pictures even.
Yeah I looked for that one a while back... For some reason that thread was trashed....maybe Dave can get it put back up?





here's the link to the JS downpipe...Do you have any more flanges Jeff? I need one more....
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Plug on stock turbo

Here are the picture from that thread. I think the admin are the only one who can move them from the trash.

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93ty475

Donating Member
Re: Plug on stock turbo

Thanks again Dave....What size pipe are you guys using to make up the portion that covers where the plug used to be?
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Plug on stock turbo

is it just me or is that shock on upside down? was this done to keep from melting the boot?
 

TurboTony

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