Running INCREDIBLY Rich

sytyguy

Moderated User
We installed a brand new engine (one that I built) in Scott's '92, and it is running PIG rich at startup. It has a dead miss and pours fuel (accompanied by black smoke, fouling of plugs, etc....). Have tried varying fuel pressure to no avail. Here's what all we've changed/done:

- Set fuel pressure ranging from 48-32 psi
- Checked TPS, O2, IAT, CTS
- Tried 2 different chips (one modified/one stock)
- Checked for kinked line (nada)
- Checked for busted regulator (nada)
- Checked for open injectors (nada - fouls numerous plugs)
- Checked for vac leak (nada)
- ECM checked out good (Scantool reads, proper CEL flashing, etc...)
- Check for crossed wires (nada)
- Checked timing (close enough)

It blackened all the plugs, pours black smoke, and all sensors checked out fine.....which tells me that either it's getting abnormal pressure (not the case), the spark is too weak (it does stay running roughly with some pedal effort), or the ECM is commanding too much fuel (insert solution _____). All the grounds look good (esp. the ECM grounds), we're getting no codes (yet), and mechanically, the engine seems to be fine.

FWIW, it was a stock rebuild - stock cam, FM hypereutectic pistons, Comp lifters, stock valvetrain, etc.... Valvetrain appears to be adjusted properly (adjust half, rotate, adjust other half, etc....) and engine fires up convincingly.

Most of you know me, and I know a good deal about these trucks, but I'm hoping I overlooked something obvious. Any ideas? Hopefully I'll figure it out before anyone replies and makes me feel dumb... :wink:

Hood
 

PPI Typhoon

DIY Madman
Have you hooked it up to see what your injector DC's are?? That would at least give you something else to rule out. I saw that you checked with a scantool, but didn't mention about DC's.
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
mismatched chip and injectors ( I think you said you had them cleaned, are you sure they sent you the same ones back).

wrong map sensor / chip combo

loose nut behind the wheel. :eek:
 

JSM

Active member
Short between the seat and steering wheel?

Did you try a different ECM? Almost sounds like limp home mode in a way.
 

sytyguy

Moderated User
Turns out that the rear wiring harness ground had come loose (notice how I said all grounds were good earlier). :doh: Connected it back and the engine wanted to fire right up, but it dirtied up the plugs enough that we're gonna change 'em this morning and give it another go. Hopefully that's all it was. Guess thats what happens when you put an entire '92 Syclone back together in 4 days, rushing it to have it running by the GAST/FAST meet today.

John/Jeff......good thing is that Scott was the short between the seat and steering wheel. I was the one with my nads dangled over the fender trying to figure out WTF I missed.

Scott....I appreciate you posting the solution AFTER we figured it out. Ass.......

Hood
 
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