KGB Pilot125
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Can I swap out the exhaust side for a mitsu housing? I want something more than a 16g but not laggy like a 20g. I think that the stock syty might be the answer for my DSM.
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Josh
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Josh
Stock turbo question
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TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
The_Bronze
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Re: Stock turbo question
The 16G isn't big enough for the DSM for sure. I loved all 5 of my "1.5Gens". I just couldn't get the kid's carseat in backwards and still carry the wife. :rant:
The 16G isn't big enough for the DSM for sure. I loved all 5 of my "1.5Gens". I just couldn't get the kid's carseat in backwards and still carry the wife. :rant:
KGB Pilot125
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Re: Stock turbo question
the syty one isnt, but i should be able to swap housings though right?
the syty one isnt, but i should be able to swap housings though right?
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: Stock turbo question
:rotf: That is why we sold our POS. Actually, it wa a good car, wife just wanted a Ty.
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: Stock turbo question
Maybe. But you said you wanted to used the SYTY exhaust housing right? If you are willing to go through all of that, why not just buy the turbo you want?
Maybe. But you said you wanted to used the SYTY exhaust housing right? If you are willing to go through all of that, why not just buy the turbo you want?
KGB Pilot125
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Re: Stock turbo question
I want to use the syty compressor side and a mitsu exhaust side. I dont know what turbo I want.... To many choices and they keep coming out with better stuff. I will honestly probably end up with a ebay 16g while I figure out what I want to do with the car....
I want to use the syty compressor side and a mitsu exhaust side. I dont know what turbo I want.... To many choices and they keep coming out with better stuff. I will honestly probably end up with a ebay 16g while I figure out what I want to do with the car....
viperman5
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Re: Stock turbo question
Listen to Jeff, my 20g was laggy compared to the stocker and that was taken care of by Jeff and his tune.
Listen to Jeff, my 20g was laggy compared to the stocker and that was taken care of by Jeff and his tune.
It's just a six
Super Member
Re: Stock turbo question
So your saying after Jeff tunned it,your TD06H-20G turbo w/a 14 cm housing spooled as fast as a stock turbo? And thats w/a stock converter also?
So your saying after Jeff tunned it,your TD06H-20G turbo w/a 14 cm housing spooled as fast as a stock turbo? And thats w/a stock converter also?
KGB Pilot125
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Re: Stock turbo question
I have no idea of that, playing with timing and a/f has had a huge effect on the little 14b.
I am not looking for 20 psi by 1800 rpm just trying to think out of the box and maybe going down a little different path than the typical 16g fmic and boost controller path.
I have no idea of that, playing with timing and a/f has had a huge effect on the little 14b.
I am not looking for 20 psi by 1800 rpm just trying to think out of the box and maybe going down a little different path than the typical 16g fmic and boost controller path.
viperman5
Member
Re: Stock turbo question
At the time, when I bought my turbo, I went with the 12cm exhaust housing because everything I read the 14cm exhaust housing was too big for the stock TC. After installing the 20g using the Ulitimate chip, I went from like a 13.18 to 14.4 ET in the 1/4 mile. There is a thread with my exact times. My 60 foot went from like a 1.7 to 2.2. I picked up top end as my MPH went from a 99 to like 102 but it was a turd out of the hole.
Jeff tuned it and my 60 foots were back to the same as the stock turbo. My best on the 20g went back down to 13.0 at 104. Since then I found rear wheel cylinder issues when I changed to aluminum drums then was able to turn my times in my signature.
I had my 700r rebuilt over the past winter and put a multi disk Vigilante in. I plan to lock the TC this year and would be really happy with high/mid 12's and will be a free Jeff Scott sales rep with mid/low 12's.
At the time, when I bought my turbo, I went with the 12cm exhaust housing because everything I read the 14cm exhaust housing was too big for the stock TC. After installing the 20g using the Ulitimate chip, I went from like a 13.18 to 14.4 ET in the 1/4 mile. There is a thread with my exact times. My 60 foot went from like a 1.7 to 2.2. I picked up top end as my MPH went from a 99 to like 102 but it was a turd out of the hole.
Jeff tuned it and my 60 foots were back to the same as the stock turbo. My best on the 20g went back down to 13.0 at 104. Since then I found rear wheel cylinder issues when I changed to aluminum drums then was able to turn my times in my signature.
I had my 700r rebuilt over the past winter and put a multi disk Vigilante in. I plan to lock the TC this year and would be really happy with high/mid 12's and will be a free Jeff Scott sales rep with mid/low 12's.
Darin
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Re: Stock turbo question
They are different turbine wheels between the 14b/16g and the 17c on a typhoon. A stock turbine housing won't fit as the wheel is larger on the 17c, it's a TD06 wheel. The stock dsm turbine wheel is a TD05H. You need a Dsm housing that has been machined for the larger wheel. Not worth it in my opinion. Forced Performance has a new bolt on stock appearing turbo that will fit all of your dreams with the proper tune and support (and I mean that). Don't bother with the 17c combo, too much money for not enough gain on a dsm.
They are different turbine wheels between the 14b/16g and the 17c on a typhoon. A stock turbine housing won't fit as the wheel is larger on the 17c, it's a TD06 wheel. The stock dsm turbine wheel is a TD05H. You need a Dsm housing that has been machined for the larger wheel. Not worth it in my opinion. Forced Performance has a new bolt on stock appearing turbo that will fit all of your dreams with the proper tune and support (and I mean that). Don't bother with the 17c combo, too much money for not enough gain on a dsm.
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: Stock turbo question
Lets not forget that the bolt pattern for down pipe is 100% different.
Dont get the ebay turbos, I have heard AWFUL things about them.
Lets not forget that the bolt pattern for down pipe is 100% different.
Dont get the ebay turbos, I have heard AWFUL things about them.
KGB Pilot125
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Re: Stock turbo question
I know i am probably going to end up with that turbo after all is said and done.
I know i am probably going to end up with that turbo after all is said and done.
It's just a six
Super Member
Re: Stock turbo question
OK, that sounds more like it.
Because when you stated you had a 20G turbo,I think we all thought yours had a 14 CM housing also.
When I switched to a Ultimate 10-1 chip it was about as fast as my ATR street pitbull chip.
I played with timing & fuel pressure & compressor upgrade & last I ran was a 12.0
My tune is nowhere perfect, but I think it works pretty good for ghetto tunning. LOL.:rotf:
I think I will swap in my aluminum drums I have on my Camaro so the rear brakes will hold better.
What stall did you go with now? :tup:
OK, that sounds more like it.
Because when you stated you had a 20G turbo,I think we all thought yours had a 14 CM housing also.
When I switched to a Ultimate 10-1 chip it was about as fast as my ATR street pitbull chip.
I played with timing & fuel pressure & compressor upgrade & last I ran was a 12.0
My tune is nowhere perfect, but I think it works pretty good for ghetto tunning. LOL.:rotf:
I think I will swap in my aluminum drums I have on my Camaro so the rear brakes will hold better.
What stall did you go with now? :tup:
Re: Stock turbo question
I was just thinking about this. I have a 16G 7cm hotside that a buddy of my gave to me to see if it works. I'll go give it a shot. I have a pte 50 trim on my eclipse and it hits full boost at 4k 22psi. i thought it might be fun to try and but the ty turbo on the dsm.
I was just thinking about this. I have a 16G 7cm hotside that a buddy of my gave to me to see if it works. I'll go give it a shot. I have a pte 50 trim on my eclipse and it hits full boost at 4k 22psi. i thought it might be fun to try and but the ty turbo on the dsm.
Darin
New member
Re: Stock turbo question
The 16G hotisde WILL NOT fit onto a 17C! I mentioned this in previous posts! You will end up damaging the 17C's TD06 turbine wheel trying to cram it on there.
What you need is a turbine housing that has been machined for a TD06 turbine wheel. Forced Performance can make you one as that's what is on a Green. I had a PTE stage 3 50 trim on my last 4G63T swapped colt, it was a decent turo, but PTE's DSM housings are too small, they typically use the .48 AR. Gives you quick spool but lack in the top end. They do have a .63 DSM housing but they are used mostly on the bigger stuff, GT35 and T67, for example.
The 16G hotisde WILL NOT fit onto a 17C! I mentioned this in previous posts! You will end up damaging the 17C's TD06 turbine wheel trying to cram it on there.
What you need is a turbine housing that has been machined for a TD06 turbine wheel. Forced Performance can make you one as that's what is on a Green. I had a PTE stage 3 50 trim on my last 4G63T swapped colt, it was a decent turo, but PTE's DSM housings are too small, they typically use the .48 AR. Gives you quick spool but lack in the top end. They do have a .63 DSM housing but they are used mostly on the bigger stuff, GT35 and T67, for example.