Book Value

[cloneman315]

I have been folowing the market latley on our trucks and it seems like it is in the crapper,i have also been folowing the turbo buick market and it seems like it is on fire,any body know whats going on?I know guys that are just about giving there trucks away and cant sell them,but gn"s with 150,000 miles all roached out are bringing 9000 plus.

 

[H-TOWN-TYPHOON]

Re: Book Value

gn/tr = 11 second quarter for 2000 (or less)

12 second sy/ty is considerably more (not counting tooky), plus making it turn, etc.

 

[mpulsev10]

Re: Book Value

Anything over 7 years old you can throw out the nada/kbb book values. I'd love to buy some older trucks/cars for what nada/kbb says there worth.

 

[cloneman315]

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im going by what things are actually selling for etc

 

[Ross L]

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I don't think the Buicks are on fire yet,,,,, but hopefully it's coming Yes, the trucks are cheap right now but the market WILL turn around. Only a matter of time I think all "muscle" cars are selling for less right now. Maybe a little backlash from the high end muscle cars(the million dollar Cuda's, and 6 digit Boss mustangs and Camaro's). :2cents:

 

[warmpancakes]

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The market is going through a adjustment right now, with house proices plumiting and repos and foreclosures at a record high people dont have the disposiable cash like they did 2 -3 years ago, not to mention all the investment car guys have moved along prices are starting to settle, the major problem with these trucks is people buy they from a caring owner have no idea the "commitment" they just bought get pissed at it and dump them, look at the ty i just bought 3k for a 95,xxx rust free truck for 3 k because it wouldnt run right, 3 hours in the hands of a caring owner and it runs like a dream personally i hope the values fall more so i can buy more. Ifg they go up great if the become worthless great i love these trucks for what they are fun, pain in the ass piece of poos, But i can see myself not owning at least 1. If you are worried about what the truck is worth sell it and go buy gold

 

[dgoodhue]

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The prices of most auto's, especially 2nd vehicle toys seem to be down. Some of that probably has to do with the down turn in the housing market and increase in gasoline, people just have less money to spend on average. I have heard with boats sales, unless its steal they don't sell.

 

[cloneman315]

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i guess i ment what things are selling for ,not the actuall book value ,i def dont care what it is i am not selling mine anytime soon i dont think.i just noticed the buicks are bringing good money and seems people cant give there sytys away

 

[Mtn Z]

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Retail blue book has steadily increased in my area for my Sy since I have owned it. It books out at $20,150 and I'm sure it would be a cold day in hell before anybody paid me that for my truck even considering that it's in excellent condition.

 

[dgoodhue]

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i guess i ment what things are selling for ,not the actuall book value ,i def dont care what it is i am not selling mine anytime soon i dont think.i just noticed the buicks are bringing good money and seems people cant give there sytys away

Buick GN's have a very big following, they are the sleeper car that almost every car guy knows about. The demand for them is much greater than SyTy's. The non intercooler pre 86 GN's aren't worth much, despite the low production numbers.

 

[Baythan]

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The Buick boom has leveled out a bit in the past year. Some people think the boom has to do with the cars hitting the 20 year mark (intercooled '86). But it's a combination of things including the ease of maintenance and tweaking, the availability of aftermarket parts and vendors, the sheer street cred, and the undeniable potency of the now legendary 3.8L Turbo V6.

The spike occured, of course, right after I sold my minty GN for about $12k. :roll:

Whether SyTys ever see such a spike is debatable, but not out of the question. They have a lot more problems and a lot less people to back them up. Then again, we saw how one person (albeit a short period of time) created a demand and drove the prices up.

We'll see...for now, just have fun and pay no mind to the books...they're useless in a market like this.

 

[Ross L]

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the undeniable potency of the now legendary 3.8L Turbo V6

:tup: I liked that line! One thing though,,, are Sy's/Ty's really more problems(not factoring in the transfer case) vs Buicks?

 

[mpulsev10]

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Just because one guy will sell a low mileage ty/sy for under 10k doesn't mean thats there current value. I think a clean low mileage ty/sy with original paint is worth 15k or better. You just have to find the right buyer and be patient. If you are hard up and need money then you sell it for what you can get. Thats just the way it goes.

 

[Bad00SS]

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I'd say the market is pretty shitty. My truck has been on 10 forums and only had one serious interest.

 

[mpulsev10]

Re: Book Value

try ebay.

 

[SY2932]

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Buick GN's have a very big following, they are the sleeper car that almost every car guy knows about. The demand for them is much greater than SyTy's. The non intercooler pre 86 GN's aren't worth much, despite the low production numbers.

BINGO My bud and I have discussed the future of these trucks several times and they will probably never be worth anything except to the "cult" following that they have. Most of us enjoy the fact that people don't realize what it is. Problem is people don't want what they don't know about...

As far a the market value is concerned, I could care less. I didn't buy my truck as an investment. It is for ME to enjoy, not someone else. I don't like seeing trucks "given away" since it tends to allow people who couldn't afford and sometimes shouldn't own one of these trucks to begin with, an opportunity to get something that they couldn't otherwise.

SyTys in general are too old to finance. They are for the most part used-up 15-17 year old pieces of GM Junk. The really nice, original-owner, garage-queens generally don't come up for sale. Most potential buyers for these trucks are well aware of the pitfalls and problems, and are therefore 'wary'. The dealers and brokers are no longer interested for the same reasons.

The demand and interest has just never been very high. Now it's even less.

Yup, anyone who even has a REMOTE idea of what they are getting themselves into would be smart to stay away. The level of maintenace and costs required aren't for the faint hearted. GM POS plain and simple...

 

[Baythan]

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:tup: I liked that line! One thing though,,, are Sy's/Ty's really more problems(not factoring in the transfer case) vs Buicks?

Absolutely. Of course, it has a lot to do with indivdual vehicles and care. You'll hear people on this board who have had zero problems with their trucks...some even daily drive them.

I've had them both and SyTy's seem more complicated yet LESS refined than the 5 year older GNs. There's a longer list of things that will definitely go wrong at some point and they seem to be much more expensive fixes (with the exception of the TR's tendency to blow head gaskets...advantage SyTy on that one)

 

[cloneman315]

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ok also , what they are worth and what people seem to be paying are two different things for sure.

 

[gkrcr882]

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I think I got lucky with my Ty...granted, it has some bugs, but nothing catastrophic. Call me crazy, but I do plan to DD it. As with anything mechanical, maintence is the name of the game.

The market is kinda soft for these trucks, and IMO its because they never had the mass following or publicity the Buicks did. Might have something to do with the general image of GMC itself- a no nonsense work vehicle company- after all, who would imagine that a hay hauler company also made little street terrors? That, and the import craze has taken the spotlight off of American performance (let alone early 90's) in general.:2cents:

 

[SY1616]

Re: Book Value

So after having said all of this, would it be better to sell a Sy/Ty now or first second quarter 2008?