Converter Help

[Boosted]

When I bought my ty, it had a very recent trans rebuild. One year later it still shifts hard. Here is my concern. Took Ty to the strip last night for a baseline before modifications start.
I cannot build boost at the line. I can only get back to 0 on factory gauge.
Converter is way too tight. My 60 foot times were 2.2 :roll:

Who has the best bang for the buck converter. I remember Hood talking about his Dayco's and read about the 9/11's.
I have access to B&M and TCI through work....any opinions?


Thoughts?

 

[ghettosled]

the TCI has a 12" 2800 stall called the super street fighter that works well for moderately powered trucks (i'd say with stock longblocks) It is rated much higher, but behind the torque of our motors it stalls much less. They will be pretty cheap if you get good deals on them.

 

[Boosted]

I don't forsee huge improvements in the near future. I would love to step up to one of your turbo kits, but the money just ain't there right now. Iwant to maximize what I have and a 2.2 60 foot leave a lot of room for improvement.
Thanks Mike.

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

I don't forsee huge improvements in the near future. I would love to step up to one of your turbo kits, but the money just ain't there right now. Iwant to maximize what I have and a 2.2 60 foot leave a lot of room for improvement.
Thanks Mike.

im also getting a best of a 2.2 60ft time..
my truck is also overboosting in 3rd gear.. (every run down the track)

I have a converter i bought from ed hess, he claims it was in use when he blew a tranny.. so he isn't sure how good/bad it is..

im not so sure I want to just throw it on and see what happens.. but i think its a 3200 stall or something close..

what the hell can i do with a converter to have it checked to make sure its still good?



I really need to adjust my wastegate rod and pray that is the reason im overboosting, hopefully I can get my truck into the 13s, before putting on the ultimate chip and 3bar.

 

[ed hess]

hey boosted

not sure of your experience staging so lemme ask ya a question or 2.

if you stand on your brakes, and also have the ebrake on so that you cannot possibly creep. then stand on the gas, if you wait in this configuration for like 6 seconds, what rpm does the tach and the boost gauge stop at?

you can datalog this to make it easy to answer.

this is how we check my boost build rate inside the shop, (we actually do mine without the ebrake)

ed

 

[bezerk]

might as well throw a question in here as well..

i will be buying a turbo kit prolly a pte 61.
wich converter (again), bang for the buck, shoud i get..

not really planning of running it at the track more than 2 times a year..

mods:
vortec heads
412 cam
#50 injectors
1.6 ratio rockers

Thanks

 

[Boosted]

im also getting a best of a 2.2 60ft time..
my truck is also overboosting in 3rd gear.. (every run down the track)

I have a converter i bought from ed hess, he claims it was in use when he blew a tranny.. so he isn't sure how good/bad it is..

im not so sure I want to just throw it on and see what happens.. but i think its a 3200 stall or something close..

what the hell can i do with a converter to have it checked to make sure its still good?



I really need to adjust my wastegate rod and pray that is the reason im overboosting, hopefully I can get my truck into the 13s, before putting on the ultimate chip and 3bar.

Glad I am not the only one in with this 60 foot time. I read about Ed and his 1.5 runs and its depressing.
I thought manufacturers could cut the converter open to check and reweld. This is something that Morgan talked about at one time.
I removed catyletic converter, which is why I am overboosting.
14.7 is best I could muster in 4 runs.

 

[Boosted]

hey boosted

not sure of your experience staging so lemme ask ya a question or 2.

if you stand on your brakes, and also have the ebrake on so that you cannot possibly creep. then stand on the gas, if you wait in this configuration for like 6 seconds, what rpm does the tach and the boost gauge stop at?

you can datalog this to make it easy to answer.

this is how we check my boost build rate inside the shop, (we actually do mine without the ebrake)

ed

I have never held it for 6 seconds, but when I do stall against converter, best I can do is get the boost needle to do is point straight left, or Zero. I can't say I have seen it go past 0, but if it does its BARELY.
Yeah, DM is on the list, need to get a cable, or build one.
I am almost wondering if they put a stock type S10 stall, Converter is so tight compared to other stalls in my older hotrods.

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

Glad I am not the only one in with this 60 foot time. I read about Ed and his 1.5 runs and its depressing.
I thought manufacturers could cut the converter open to check and reweld. This is something that Morgan talked about at one time.
I removed catyletic converter, which is why I am overboosting.
14.7 is best I could muster in 4 runs.

my best run was a 14.2, that was the best of 4 or 5 runs, i had a 2.2 60ft, and a 88mph.. because I overboosted 3/4 of the way down the track..

if I could only improve my 60ft, and stop overboosting, I might ACTUALLY break into the 13s, with a 99% stock truck (exhaust, and high flow car, and afpr)

that would make me happy, since the previous owner's best time without the ultimate was a 14.2

 

[SY2932]

Here's the converter that I'm currently running:

3K stall TC w/lock up part #HP2230L $412.75 through paceparts.com list price is $956.37.

I can go from 15 inches of vacuum to 15 pounds of boost in under one second... My bud with a ty has the same converter in his truck and he has had similar results. However, we both have built transmissions so that comes into play also. The times in my sig below were accomplished this year with said converter.

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

I don't know why but knowone has mentioned that your problem may not be the converter. There are a few things i'd check before the TC. If you have vacuum leaks, this could be part of the problem. If you are loosing boost anywhere such as IC-TB boot, this could be part of the problem. I'd also tell you that if you are using the stock WG, if its sticky and functioning incorrectly, then you may not build boost properly because you are bleeding off to much exhaust for the turbo to even spool. A new/better TC isn't going to help much if the WG is the problem. I'd check all the above before you remove the tranny, purchase an d install a TC.

The WG could be the problem, in fact, its why many go with externals, simply because the stock setup is poor for most trucks.

 

[Ty0279]

Here's the converter that I'm currently running:

3K stall TC w/lock up part #HP2230L $412.75 through paceparts.com list price is $956.37.

I can go from 15 inches of vacuum to 15 pounds of boost in under one second... My bud with a ty has the same converter in his truck and he has had similar results. However, we both have built transmissions so that comes into play also. The times in my sig below were accomplished this year with said converter.

Awesome. A post on a BB doesn't get any better than this. I've also been looking around for a new converter. Thanks MC. 8)

 

[92BlkTy]

if you have a vaccum leak you may have a rough idle. easy way to tell. i thought my TC was lame until i actually brake boosted the truck right. heres my process.

pull up to the line.
Stage
BARELY back out of the stage. just enough so the light goes off.
put it in neutral
rev to 3K rpm 2-3 times, while standing on the brake as hard as possible
(i like to move the seat up for more leverage)
let the rpms drop back to idle and put it in gear.
keep standing on the brake.
stand on the gas as hard as the brake.
usually the suspension loading will push me so that i am once again staged.
when the light goes green, let off the break

my boost building wasnt very efficient because i was on the stock WG while doing this, so ive gone from getting 10psi in about 1.5 seconds to having a 6.6second R/T to get 10 psi. ive launched at 15psi before as well. but i have a catless 3" exhaust with dump. i dont overboost at this altitude, but about everytime i hit the gas at seal level it overboosts.

ive datamasterd several launches, and my truck consistantly stalls at 2650rpms. im at full spool at 3200, if not sooner depending on the density of the air that day.

 

[Boosted]

I don't know why but knowone has mentioned that your problem may not be the converter. There are a few things i'd check before the TC. If you have vacuum leaks, this could be part of the problem. If you are loosing boost anywhere such as IC-TB boot, this could be part of the problem. I'd also tell you that if you are using the stock WG, if its sticky and functioning incorrectly, then you may not build boost properly because you are bleeding off to much exhaust for the turbo to even spool. A new/better TC isn't going to help much if the WG is the problem. I'd check all the above before you remove the tranny, purchase an d install a TC.

The WG could be the problem, in fact, its why many go with externals, simply because the stock setup is poor for most trucks.

I will double check vacuum leaks, but all lines are new....Make me remember I need to zip tie them, but all new line, very very recently.
Truck will overboost in a heart beat, wants to build more boost than I can control right now. I am really leaning toward a minigate on crossover, to eliminate any chance, and for solid boost control.

 

[Boosted]

Here's the converter that I'm currently running:

3K stall TC w/lock up part #HP2230L $412.75 through paceparts.com list price is $956.37.

I can go from 15 inches of vacuum to 15 pounds of boost in under one second... My bud with a ty has the same converter in his truck and he has had similar results. However, we both have built transmissions so that comes into play also. The times in my sig below were accomplished this year with said converter.

How built does it need to be to handle a converter like this?
I want to retain daily driveability. Trans was rebuild before me and shifts hard, but I dont want to throw a great converter only to kill trans, sending junk into new converter. ?

 

[SeattleSy#1255]

I don't know why but knowone has mentioned that your problem may not be the converter. There are a few things i'd check before the TC. If you have vacuum leaks, this could be part of the problem. If you are loosing boost anywhere such as IC-TB boot, this could be part of the problem. I'd also tell you that if you are using the stock WG, if its sticky and functioning incorrectly, then you may not build boost properly because you are bleeding off to much exhaust for the turbo to even spool. A new/better TC isn't going to help much if the WG is the problem. I'd check all the above before you remove the tranny, purchase an d install a TC.

The WG could be the problem, in fact, its why many go with externals, simply because the stock setup is poor for most trucks.

I will double check vacuum leaks, but all lines are new....Make me remember I need to zip tie them, but all new line, very very recently.
Truck will overboost in a heart beat, wants to build more boost than I can control right now. I am really leaning toward a minigate on crossover, to eliminate any chance, and for solid boost control.

sounds to me like you have a WG problem not a TC problem...i'd at least fix the WG one first as for sure you are having boost control problems...its cheapter and easier and could solve all the problems...if you are looking for a minigate, i have one i'll sell you totally new never used.

http://www.syty.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=39022

 

[SY2932]

How built does it need to be to handle a converter like this?
I want to retain daily driveability. Trans was rebuild before me and shifts hard, but I dont want to throw a great converter only to kill trans, sending junk into new converter. ?

A built transmission isn't necessary to run a higher stall converter. I just mentioned that I didn't have a "stock" transmission so, YMMV. Higher stall converters are actually easier on your driveline because they won't hammer it as hard (the shifts aren't as hard). However, a transmission cooler is a MUST if you run one due to all the additional heat it will generate when racing.

 

[tnsyty]

Hmm, I might check out that Hughes convertor. I was thinking about getting one of Nolans, but never got any response. I have heard lots of good stuff about the hughes units. I feel you on the 0 boost. I went from 8psi luanches to 2 psi luanches after my TD06H-20G. I am going with a 3000 stall convertor.

 

[ty1435_4.3]

I have a 2800 stall 9/11 cant I just have the stall raised to 3200. Im running a t-72 and im also getting 2.2 60ft times. 13.8@103.

 

[jwaller]

you can restall the converter to any speed you want. if you cant find somebody I have a guy that does all my 9/11 work at very reasonable prices and can upgrade you to a billete cover at the same time.