engine limits?
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StangBuster
O well, I'll find another
Re: engine limits?
from my reading....its gonna happen no matter what...
from my reading....its gonna happen no matter what...
StangBuster
O well, I'll find another
Re: engine limits?
Eventually something is going to break...These are time/maintence consuming trucks...Depends how the previous owner treated her...I would do research on every vehicle you look at...Most of the guys on this forum know about or helped someone buy their truck, and have some knowledge of its abuse...
Eventually something is going to break...These are time/maintence consuming trucks...Depends how the previous owner treated her...I would do research on every vehicle you look at...Most of the guys on this forum know about or helped someone buy their truck, and have some knowledge of its abuse...
mr.m
New member
Re: engine limits?
cool. i was just wondering, like, i plan on buying a truck and doing a full rebuild. i was thinking about what components would need replaced. i was planning on doing a stroker. do they offer NON billet stroker cranks? something like a 4340 forged steel piece? i obviously want forged pistons, and h-beam rods, with ARP hardware throughout. if i wanted about 400-450 crank hp, what would i be looking at?
cool. i was just wondering, like, i plan on buying a truck and doing a full rebuild. i was thinking about what components would need replaced. i was planning on doing a stroker. do they offer NON billet stroker cranks? something like a 4340 forged steel piece? i obviously want forged pistons, and h-beam rods, with ARP hardware throughout. if i wanted about 400-450 crank hp, what would i be looking at?
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: engine limits?
There are fairly stock motors in the 11's and 12's. I think even one or two in the 10's. I dont view our motors as weak links at all. I see the trans as that. My motors blew from stupid shit like the oil pick up tube fell offf and the third one the machine shop screwed up my crank. The frist was my retarted ex never checked the oil. Hence the term EX. I may go to a set of EAGLE rods on my current build and I have Hyperuetectic pistons. I guess it all depends on what you wnat to do with it. 4-450HP isnt enough to go crazy IMO.
There are fairly stock motors in the 11's and 12's. I think even one or two in the 10's. I dont view our motors as weak links at all. I see the trans as that. My motors blew from stupid shit like the oil pick up tube fell offf and the third one the machine shop screwed up my crank. The frist was my retarted ex never checked the oil. Hence the term EX. I may go to a set of EAGLE rods on my current build and I have Hyperuetectic pistons. I guess it all depends on what you wnat to do with it. 4-450HP isnt enough to go crazy IMO.
gkrcr882
SyTyless......for now!
Re: engine limits?
the actual engine is very durable, its the detonation that destroys these motors. With a good turbo, IC, injectors, exhaust, alky, and proper boost control, these engines will develop an amazing amount of HP, and remain fairly durable. But start adding H-beam rods, strengthend cranks, and other "bottom end" components and the engine will be the least of your worries, the rest of the truck will be. The trannies in these trucks are tempermental, and some people have had good luck with them, while others have have to do multiple rebuilds, or even done a 4L80E swap since the 700's keep going. The front propshaft is one of the first things to go when large hp/tq numbers are made, since it is barely adaquate for a stock powered truck, but what isnt on these things?:2cents:
the actual engine is very durable, its the detonation that destroys these motors. With a good turbo, IC, injectors, exhaust, alky, and proper boost control, these engines will develop an amazing amount of HP, and remain fairly durable. But start adding H-beam rods, strengthend cranks, and other "bottom end" components and the engine will be the least of your worries, the rest of the truck will be. The trannies in these trucks are tempermental, and some people have had good luck with them, while others have have to do multiple rebuilds, or even done a 4L80E swap since the 700's keep going. The front propshaft is one of the first things to go when large hp/tq numbers are made, since it is barely adaquate for a stock powered truck, but what isnt on these things?:2cents:
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: engine limits?
Engine
The crank & block have gone low 10's
The rods and piston have gone 10.93 but I would not recommend planing for that. They are weak and have very little margin of error as you increase the HP, plus you have to keep the RPM's down. This is what gives out motor the repuation of being a glass motor. IMO for performance you should never rebuild an engine with stock rods and pistons.
heads (flow reasons) & valves you do 11's with them, but they aren't the most effiecent way.
In general, There ususally is 3 type of engine builds on SyTy.
Stock long block, push the stock motor with more psi and bigger turbo. With a moderate turbo and good tuning it can run 11's.
Built up stock block and cranks, always with Forged Pistons & Rods. Usually this includes upgrade heads/cam, popular options to do at this time 4 bolt mains, nitridide or cyro crank. Many 10 sec Sy's have used this combo.
Bowtie Block, all out build usually with billet crank and exotic heads and porting, $$$
Drivetrain
Transmission will last in the 12's, in the 11's the stock parts fail really quickly.
Rear end & axels, rear should be replace when making serious HP, two 9 sec truck destroyed the rear end really quickly. The propshaft will break with regular boost launches (even on a stock truck)
Engine
The crank & block have gone low 10's
The rods and piston have gone 10.93 but I would not recommend planing for that. They are weak and have very little margin of error as you increase the HP, plus you have to keep the RPM's down. This is what gives out motor the repuation of being a glass motor. IMO for performance you should never rebuild an engine with stock rods and pistons.
heads (flow reasons) & valves you do 11's with them, but they aren't the most effiecent way.
In general, There ususally is 3 type of engine builds on SyTy.
Stock long block, push the stock motor with more psi and bigger turbo. With a moderate turbo and good tuning it can run 11's.
Built up stock block and cranks, always with Forged Pistons & Rods. Usually this includes upgrade heads/cam, popular options to do at this time 4 bolt mains, nitridide or cyro crank. Many 10 sec Sy's have used this combo.
Bowtie Block, all out build usually with billet crank and exotic heads and porting, $$$
Drivetrain
Transmission will last in the 12's, in the 11's the stock parts fail really quickly.
Rear end & axels, rear should be replace when making serious HP, two 9 sec truck destroyed the rear end really quickly. The propshaft will break with regular boost launches (even on a stock truck)