HID head light conversion interest?

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Ok basically I was looking to upgrade my sy to HID lighting and was approached by someone that has offered quality and reasonably priced HID kits in the past to many turbo buick owners.. His kit would include all that there would be needed for install including glass h4 replacement housings and plug and play installation.. Price depends on demand of course and should be before or close to $300 shipped.

Now im not exactly up with all the whole High Intensity Discharge thing or there current pricing so Im not sure how good this price is but it sounds reasonable to me. What do you guys think? Would there be any kind of interest on this forum for this?

What kind of questions should I drill this guy with? What would you guys be looking for in such a kit?

Some questions i've come up with so far and will be asking about are:

What kind of temp range (6000k, 8000k etc), manufactor/brand, warrenty on ballast/ignitor? Are these going to be Bi-xenon(high/low) or single HID setups?

What are some other things I should inquire about?

Thanks for the help

Ryan
 

ShuggsRR

Donating Member
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

I am as well but know nothing about HIDs also. i have seen them as cheap as $150 and pricey as $800. I dont kow the difference, thats why i havent bought one yet.
 

TwistedTy

More boost! N.A.S.T.E
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

ive bought a few kits for my old truck. one of the kits not sure what brand they were but i always had ballast problems. the guy i was gettin them from warrantied them for a long time so i always sent him the old one and he replaced them on time. at the time i was paying 350 for the set. you must make sure absolutly nooo water is in the housings at all. i had a bit of moisture coming in to the headlight over night when parked and my bulbs would blow out. like i said he replaced them. i think id be in for a set what color temp are the ones he is offering?
 
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

I was thinking about doing this also, but haven't researched it at all. If the price is right (?) and it's reliable I'd be down with being a guinea pig.....
 

odium

1BADGMC
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

You shouldn't put the HID system in your stock housing. Without a projecting system designed for HIDs, you will blind everybody on the road. You will be able to see better, but everybody else around you definitely won't.

If you are building up a professional truck (Marty), I would take this into consideration during your concept/engineering phase. If you are modifying just to "pimp your ride," have at it.
 
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

You shouldn't put the HID system in your stock housing. Without a projecting system designed for HIDs, you will blind everybody on the road. You will be able to see better, but everybody else around you definitely won't.

If you are building up a professional truck (Marty), I would take this into consideration during your concept/engineering phase. If you are modifying just to "pimp your ride," have at it.



I would hope whoever is designing this would take that into consideration
 

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

wicked said:
You shouldn't put the HID system in your stock housing. Without a projecting system designed for HIDs, you will blind everybody

Yea this has been taken into consideration but what about the older Acura TL, RL, Infinity and Lexus models? They came with a standard type lamp, not a projector beam style. I believe the newer projector beam lamps help dissipate the beam more correct?

wicked said:
If you are building up a professional truck (Marty), I would take this into consideration during your concept/engineering phase. If you are modifying just to "pimp your ride," have at it.

If you knew me, you would know im far from the "pimp your ride" type and could really careless about how bling my ride is.. i'd rather have a quality product in my ride that doesn't draw nearly as much current and doubles my vision at night. Besides why wouldn't HID be considered worth installing in a professionally built vehicle?

Besides you could use this if you wanted to
https://www.casperselectronics.com/...creen=PROD&Product_Code=103016&Category_Code= if you can't manage to adjust your lamp
 
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Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

Ok,

He sent me a link to his pictures which is listed below.. Check out his other folders on the left of that screen to browse thru also.. one shows his kit installed on his gn comparing it to others that don't have the kit.

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/casasha2006/album/576460762390453078

He said he'll offer two options, Bi-xenon(high/low) and single.. prices depend on interest but he'll need at least 10 kits spoken for in order to offer them for $280 shipped but isn't solid on the price yet.. he's still trying to figure out pricing for both kits for us. Right now it looks like if we can get 15 people the price for the Bi-xenon kits will be $270 shipped.. The single HID kits will be cheaper if you don't want high/low beams.

Again, is this a good price for one of these kits?

He also said that the most common color temp ranges chosen seems to be 6000k which is a pure super bright white with a very light mixture of blue. Don't know where this applies but he said 6000-6500k is street legal, the higher the number the more blue/purple it gets. Stock halogens is around 4300k. Also the 8000k ones may cost a little more then the other temp ranges.

He did mention the only down fall to these kits are that the manufacture only offers a 90 day warranty on the ballast, bulb and relay then he goes on to say how these produce less heat, less amp draw and tend to last twice as long if not longer then standard.. he also said that he has had the same setup in his daily driver for 6 to 7 years now without any problems and loves them.

I asked him how much replacement bulbs are for these things.. he said that he normally sells the single hid bulbs for $75 a pair and the bi-xenon sells for $95.


So again, does this sound like a decent kit? and a decent price for what you get? If so how many would be interested besides me?
 
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THEMADTYPH00N

Active member
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

Would there possibly be an option to get the fog lights in HID as well? I'd be interested in a kit but only if you could get the fog lights to match it as well. Having nice white headlights and yellow looking fog lights would annoy me.
 

H-TOWN-TYPHOON

You're killin' me, Smalls
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

If you could find a H1/H4 housing in that size then it would be possible.

It would also be an extra $250 + the cost of the housing just to have matching fog/headlights.
 

SyTyJedi

Jedi Council
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

As long as the ballasts are good quality this should be a good kit. I'm down for one.

What was your idea for the H4 style housings?

It's true we don't have a projector headlight, but you can still have a nice beam pattern. Those pages on regular lights being better than HIDs are BS anyway. A buddy of mine had an HID system in his 300zx and it had phillips ballast IIRC - very nice looking kit.

I'm down.
 

odium

1BADGMC
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

Boostedpimp said:
Yea this has been taken into consideration but what about the older Acura TL, RL, Infinity and Lexus models? They came with a standard type lamp, not a projector beam style.

These lamps were designed specifically for HID output, even though they are not projectors. Our lamps were not, so the light projection will most likely not be optimal for you and the surrounding traffic.

Boostedpimp said:
I believe the newer projector beam lamps help dissipate the beam more correct?

Projector lamps help direct the light pattern more effectively (downwards and outwards, 0 to -6 degrees in front of the car).

Unfortunately, most people assume you can plug HIDs in to a standard lamp assembly and all will be well. I mentioned before that you will be able to see better than before, but unless you get a projector specifically for HIDs or take the time to make the stock lamp adjust appropriately with the HIDs installed, you will be blinding those around you. I think this is comparable to seeing a car with fog lights aimed up and in instead of where they should be, down and out. It ends up detracting from the look of the car/truck.

BUT, with all that being said, this kit may end up working perfectly fine. Just be aware.

Boostedpimp said:
If you knew me, you would know im far from the "pimp your ride" type and could really careless about how bling my ride is.. i'd rather have a quality product in my ride that doesn't draw nearly as much current and doubles my vision at night. Besides why wouldn't HID be considered worth installing in a professionally built vehicle?

Besides you could use this if you wanted to
https://www.casperselectronics.com/...creen=PROD&Product_Code=103016&Category_Code= if you can't manage to adjust your lamp

SyTyJedi said:
As long as the ballasts are good quality this should be a good kit. I'm down for one.

What was your idea for the H4 style housings?

It's true we don't have a projector headlight, but you can still have a nice beam pattern. Those pages on regular lights being better than HIDs are BS anyway. A buddy of mine had an HID system in his 300zx and it had phillips ballast IIRC - very nice looking kit.

I'm down.

I want to be perfectly clear: HIDs provide much better light output than standard bulbs. If a professional build is what you are after, HIDs will definitely help its looks and aesthetics. I want to give my input about how important it is that the kit is engineered to make sure the beam spread is adjustable. My only concern was that some builders throw HIDs in without putting the effort in to optimize it, and it ends up taking away from the design of the car/truck.
 

TURBOV6

New member
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

My name Jackson from turbobuick.com I am the one selling the HID conversion kits for the turbobuicks.

I will read what I can and answer what I can.

I really thank boostedpimp for letting me know the interest you guys have on my hid kits.

I just got back from work so when everything settles down tonight I will post back.

Thanks again!
 

TURBOV6

New member
Re: HID head light conversion interest?

Ok I will try to answer what I can.
Just to let everyone know these kits are from hong kong not china as I listed it as. Another mistake that was mentioned that a simular kit was on my test vehicle (daily driver) was in my car for 6-7 years (not years months :) )

These are what I call cheap affordable high quality kits. I don't see my self spending $500+ on a hid kit when can get the same exact thing for 1/2 or 3 time cheaper. Things don't last forever and expecially in a car enviroment when it can get wet, damage from heat/cold, humidity, impact from bumps/pot holes......you understand what I am trying to say.

This is what I thought that would hurt my hid sale is it's 90 warranty. Now I worked something with my distributor that now it's extended it to 9 MONTHS!
The kits GP is $290 for 10 kits. If I can get more than 15 kits I can lower it to $280. Sorry not much I just got informed from my hid supplier he got killed on paypal fees from my payment!

The 2 kits I offer is a single hid kit and a bi-xenon kit. The brand is a CZP which was previously Odel. The single kit is much easier to install and no need to go directly to the battery but you lose the high beam feature. The bi-xenon offer both low and high hid output. Installation take a bit longer (1 hour of less not too sure I never worked on a typhoon). The bi-xenon kit has an extra relay and needs to go directly to the battery. This kit will be plug and play like the kits I offer to the turbo buicks. The 2 kits will be modified to plug right in. This kit is completly waterproof ( not too sure on the relay) but the ballast is completly sealed up there is no chance water can damage the ballast even if the water gets in. The bulb you can submerge in water and will still work. You ever see the pic of a hid lamp in the fish tank? If the lamp was noo good the fished will die instantly because of high voltage from the hid output. Most of the connections is done near the pass lamp (input for relay, mounting the ballast and relay and main 12v/ground connection, I also included the + battery terminal and the last thing is to do is run the wire accross for the drivers hid connection). Simple!

The hid conversion 200mm lamps is a direct high quality glass replacement lamp that uses a H4 halogen. The brand is Autopal. A H4 lamp is included with this kit incase a problem occur with the hids.

Someone mentioned about have hids in a non projector lamp. I don't see why there will be a problem? Many auto manufactor is factory equiped with a non hid projector headlight system. There is a list here posted of many automobiles with stock hid without a projector lamp. I do understand with projector the beam will be more accurate and dispursed. A improperly adjusted headlight will blind other drivers.

Ok this was posted from caspers electronics
https://www.casperselectronics.com/...creen=PROD&Product_Code=103016&Category_Code= My kits already have this installed. Some of the cheaper kit you find don't have this H4 shield. I requested for my kits to have this.

Ok the last thing I need to mention about my hid kits. I am not here to make $$$ for your infomation. I first started this because of the interest I see in the turbobuick community most of the member requested to have a complete hit put together (which I did) that was easy and will plug and play without any modifications which I noticed most guys cant do car electronics, can wrench but when it comes to auto electronis they are clueless.
The price I listed is a little cheaper over the buick kit because only if I got a bigger number of kits sold and the lamps is like $5-10 cheaper than the buick lamps. At tb.com I only sold less than 6 kits to members from the mainland but some a bunch to friend here in hawaii. 1 kit was sold to my friend that has a typhoon.

Also I need to cover both ways on shipping and since I am in hawaii shipping to me is more that from anywhere in the states. So if you do the math you will understand I am not making much per kit. These kits are benifiting both me and you.
For the one that shop on e-bay there are tons of hid kit sold there ranging from low 100's and up to $500+. Many kits out ther but you have to find the right one. I did my research and found the perfect kit. The lamps are also found there but the difference that I got everthing ready to go.

When will this kit be ready for a GP? When I am settled in from my buick kits. The kits will be arriving sometime next week and a extra typhoon kit is with my order. I need to put many kits together, modify it and test everyone before shipping it out. So when this is done I am ready for you guys. I would say in 2 weeks this kit will be ready for sale?

I do not stock these kits Why? Because it will hurt my cash flow and don't want to get stuck with kits tha don't sell especially the lamps. These kit I require a 1/2 deposit and will run it for a week or longer, when I get everyones deposit I will place the order and the other 1/2 is required. Then recieving the kits I do the same thing with my buick kits and off it go to you guys. So expect at least 2 weeks min for delivery of your hid kits.


Ok I am tired now typing all this which I never good at. I hope I explained about my hid as best as can and hope everyone that reads it understands. If there is any more questions that needs to be answered post here or send me a pm.
 
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