Motocam360 Plug n Play ECM

Rexxenexx

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Have any Stage 1s been sold to California Typhoons? If so did they pass Smog? Also any improvements in startup and idle?
 

Dan_Austin

New member
Gotcha. I was actually interested in details about the distributor/cam/crank sensor setup. I know that type of setup can be less accurate than a true cam and crank sensor, but also far less effort to install.

I wasn't expecting confirmation that the original owner had sold his goods, but it is helpful. Someone got an amazing deal and I will likely be reaching out for a stage 1 in the near future.
 

MotoCam360

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Gotcha. I was actually interested in details about the distributor/cam/crank sensor setup. I know that type of setup can be less accurate than a true cam and crank sensor, but also far less effort to install.

I wasn't expecting confirmation that the original owner had sold his goods, but it is helpful. Someone got an amazing deal and I will likely be reaching out for a stage 1 in the near future.
Hi Dan, our Stage 2 kit utilizes a true crank trigger and pickup. It also uses a cam sensor that goes in place of the distributor. We offer a wasted spark coil pack (easiest install and cheapest solution) or you can run 6 LS coils instead.
 

MotoCam360

Member
Have any Stage 1s been sold to California Typhoons? If so did they pass Smog? Also any improvements in startup and idle?
We don't keep track of where the units ship to.
Since our ecu is the same as the factory physically and there's no need to change wiring or components inside the bay, you should pass visual inspection with flying colors.

The ecu will allow you to tune the motor perfectly from start up to redline. One of our customers says TX emissions requirements are almost identical to CA and he passed 2 vehicles without problem
 

MotoCam360

Member
Gotcha. I was actually interested in details about the distributor/cam/crank sensor setup. I know that type of setup can be less accurate than a true cam and crank sensor, but also far less effort to install.

I wasn't expecting confirmation that the original owner had sold his goods, but it is helpful. Someone got an amazing deal and I will likely be reaching out for a stage 1 in the near future.
We just finished up the conversion on the Stage 2 to Stage 3 for the new owner:MC360 serial number.jpg

MC360 Stage3 conversion anno.jpg
 

MotoCam360

Member
Shipped a Stage3 system this week, which runs coil packs and sequential injection. It's unique because it has our optional wifi box that allows you to connect to any Android or iOS device. This works well for remote tuning and also digital gauges so you don't have to cut up your dash:

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Sy2623

Member
Definitely on my wish list.
Can these be upgraded from stage 1 to stage 3 later in life or does it require the purchase of the stage 3 ecu system at that time?
 

MotoCam360

Member
Definitely on my wish list.
Can these be upgraded from stage 1 to stage 3 later in life or does it require the purchase of the stage 3 ecu system at that time?
We've already done a few Stage 1 to 3 upgrades for customers - no big deal. Even if the unit changes hands, we've supported the new ecu owners
 

MotoCam360

Member
This week we shipped another Stage 1 plug n play system that is very different from all the rest we've built. The customer requested the CAN bus be brought out so he could run GPS or a stand alone dash. He's also using the bluetooth wireless dongle for tuning instead of the wifi box. Wireless tuning is handled through Tuner Studio for the PC or ShadowDash App for iOS and Android. This unit is tapped into the VSS through factory wiring so the input can lock up the torque convertor. Lastly, it's also tapped into the factory AC compressor line to control Idle up and compressor release under hard driving conditions (WOT, etc)

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Dan_Austin

New member
That last unit was built for me. The CAN gauge is way in the future, but having the pigtail ready just made sense. I was able to get my hands on a factory ECU pinout diagram and confirmed the TCC, VSS and AC input(s) by testing my current ECU/Harness.

The short version is it just plain works. Longer version, with a VSS input, things like gear detections (MPH vs RPM) possible, and already confirmed to work. With gear detection, setting things like TCC lockup only in 4th and at a specific speed possible. Also boost by gear if you want to launch soft and hammer 2nd and 3rd.

The AC request allows for idle up when AC is turned on, and AC control allows for de-clutching the AC compressor per the screenshot. VSS might not make sense for many, but RPM is good to keep from blowing up a compressor running it above it's rated RPM. And TPS is good to take a load off when needing a bit of extra juice while passing.

My truck has a very worn-out engine. The replacement is almost ready, so no harm experimenting on the current, in case testing did not go well. I only have a mile on the truck after installing the ECU, and that is just due to me having family obligations that prevent more seat time. The truck started up right away after connecting the new ECU. It holds idle at 650 rpm in gear with the AC on, and smoothly, which the factory ECU did not do so well, with a higher base idle.

The new engine will really allow the ECU to shine, but even with just a mile on the clock, I can say the benefit is clear. Many thanks go to the Motocam360 team for bringing this to market.
 

norbs

New member
Good to hear I been tuning mine at -15c it was a rough start a few weeks back but I got it going finally. I am now build a new 3 bar map file for it. I still need to find the pin out for the ac as well to make that work. I have a support forum up that Motocam aslo helps with answers, might be a good place for info as well as here.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/326063285336309
 

Dan_Austin

New member
The A/C request line is on C9 and is dark green. and has 12v on it when the HVAC switch is in AC or defrost positions. A/C control is on F1 and is Green-White, This one is optional.
 

Dan_Austin

New member
When I installed the fresh engine, I also went with a set of 75lb injectors. The power of TunerStudio made that change silly simple (after I remembered to actually save the change), with one notable exception. Cranking and Priming pulse widths were way too rich, to the point that flood clear was needed for every hot start. With ambient temps in the 35~40C, even a 'cold' start wasn't that cold. I have that largely dealt with. I also found I wasn't seeing more than 7.5 pounds of boost according to datalogs. Check a few more logged values and note I am not seeing more than 45% throttle, and the boost target table has 150Kpa (7.7lb) for that throttle. Recalibrate the TPS without trying to push the pedal through the firewall, which means I get to use all of the target table now. I mention this as it really reinforces that the ECU software and hardware really does do exactly what you tell it to do, and the level of control it brings to a 30 year old platform is just amazing.

For anyone concerned about the unit cost, the value is definitely there. I went from a stock but tired engine, to a fresh one with a big cam, turbo and oversized injectors. I had a drivable tune in minutes and a fairly refined everyday tune in a few hours of twiddling, all without opening the hood or pulling the ECU.
 
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