typhoonmaster
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someone know where a can buy a komplete suspension-kit (rear) to my typhoon? want one with latters in chrome moly and coilovers , or something like that??
Rear suspension?
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Re: Rear suspension?
I think JS Manufacturing is working on it right now. You might want to contact him. His web site is www.jsmanufacturing.com
I think JS Manufacturing is working on it right now. You might want to contact him. His web site is www.jsmanufacturing.com
warmpancakes
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Re: Rear suspension?
Why? going 2wd or gonna run sub 9 sec times?
Why? going 2wd or gonna run sub 9 sec times?
typhoonmaster
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Re: Rear suspension?
a want to run fast and a dont like the leafsprings its terrible.
a want to run fast and a dont like the leafsprings its terrible.
typhoonmaster
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Re: Rear suspension?
Yes i know that but i just HATE that leafspring suspension
Yes i know that but i just HATE that leafspring suspension
warmpancakes
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Re: Rear suspension?
Why its ony worked good for 80 years or so Im just curious as to why you hate it?
Why its ony worked good for 80 years or so Im just curious as to why you hate it?
VermontTy
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Re: Rear suspension?
If its the handling you hate, then I guess I'd just say....its a truck. Front coilovers and a rear sway bar apparently help greatly (haven't done them yet, just what others have said), but its still a truck. If you are trying to get away from the "squat" these trucks have on a launch, a lot of that is because of the front suspension, not the rear.
I thought someone had posted vids or pics of their truck on a launch pre and post coilovers, and the difference was huge.
I'm with Ken...I just don't see the benefit of spending the time and cash to put lipstick on a pig, unless you're looking to build a full nutz racer.
If its the handling you hate, then I guess I'd just say....its a truck. Front coilovers and a rear sway bar apparently help greatly (haven't done them yet, just what others have said), but its still a truck. If you are trying to get away from the "squat" these trucks have on a launch, a lot of that is because of the front suspension, not the rear.
I thought someone had posted vids or pics of their truck on a launch pre and post coilovers, and the difference was huge.
I'm with Ken...I just don't see the benefit of spending the time and cash to put lipstick on a pig, unless you're looking to build a full nutz racer.
typhoonmaster
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Re: Rear suspension?
a just dont have a good answer for that i just dont like the look of the leafsprings, so damn ugly i want a clean car, and im gonna spend as much money as it costs to get rid of them, but havent found anywhere to buy a nice rear suspension-kit.
a just dont have a good answer for that i just dont like the look of the leafsprings, so damn ugly i want a clean car, and im gonna spend as much money as it costs to get rid of them, but havent found anywhere to buy a nice rear suspension-kit.
warmpancakes
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Re: Rear suspension?
http://www.compengineering.com
www.skinnykidracecars.com
you said you dont care what it costs
http://www.compengineering.com
www.skinnykidracecars.com
you said you dont care what it costs
'JustDreamin'
Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: Rear suspension?
Just remember this thought....
A poorly configured (geometry wise) 4 link or 3 link or ladder bar setup will ride and drive worse than a leaf spring setup. The factory GM leaf spring setup is simple, reasonably well designed, and does the job asked of it pretty well. (that goes for a lot of other things too....)
If you go building a 4 link setup, you'll have alot of things to consider, like anti-squat, instant center, roll center, center of gravity, and the like. You'll need to figure out where to put the instant center, what link lengths, pickup points and angles work best for your truck and put the instant center where you wanted it, and so-on....Not to mention figuring out how to avoid significant roll oversteer or understeer, what type of centering device you want to use (watts link, panhard bar, angled 4 link, etc.) and the multitude of other choices involved.
And if you're going to do all that, you probably shouldn't use the factory 7.5" rear. You should consider a 8.5" 10-bolt, or a 12-bolt, or a 9" Ford, or a Dana 60 (which is a beast, but also nearly bulletproof in an on-road truck).
I think Air Ride Technologies has a bolt in air bag system for the rear. You might check them out and see....
'JustDreamin'
Just remember this thought....
A poorly configured (geometry wise) 4 link or 3 link or ladder bar setup will ride and drive worse than a leaf spring setup. The factory GM leaf spring setup is simple, reasonably well designed, and does the job asked of it pretty well. (that goes for a lot of other things too....)
If you go building a 4 link setup, you'll have alot of things to consider, like anti-squat, instant center, roll center, center of gravity, and the like. You'll need to figure out where to put the instant center, what link lengths, pickup points and angles work best for your truck and put the instant center where you wanted it, and so-on....Not to mention figuring out how to avoid significant roll oversteer or understeer, what type of centering device you want to use (watts link, panhard bar, angled 4 link, etc.) and the multitude of other choices involved.
And if you're going to do all that, you probably shouldn't use the factory 7.5" rear. You should consider a 8.5" 10-bolt, or a 12-bolt, or a 9" Ford, or a Dana 60 (which is a beast, but also nearly bulletproof in an on-road truck).
I think Air Ride Technologies has a bolt in air bag system for the rear. You might check them out and see....
'JustDreamin'
turbodog
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Re: Rear suspension?
I agree with JustDreamin and Typhoonmaster. The rear suspension pretty much sucks, and it is even more apparent after upgrading to coilovers in front. The rear can be made to hook up fine for straight line launching. Plenty of 60' times and ET's on this site to prove it. But for handling and ride quality - at the ride height I desire - it sucks. I'm waiting to see what Jeff comes up with. Hopefully it will be carefully thought-out. In the meantime, I'm experimenting with variations on the basic setup. Right now I have re-arched leafs, and 2" lowering blocks, and the ELC with minor modifications. With 50psi in the shocks, I have 27.25" height in the back and a the best ride/handling I've achieved so far at that ride height.
I agree with JustDreamin and Typhoonmaster. The rear suspension pretty much sucks, and it is even more apparent after upgrading to coilovers in front. The rear can be made to hook up fine for straight line launching. Plenty of 60' times and ET's on this site to prove it. But for handling and ride quality - at the ride height I desire - it sucks. I'm waiting to see what Jeff comes up with. Hopefully it will be carefully thought-out. In the meantime, I'm experimenting with variations on the basic setup. Right now I have re-arched leafs, and 2" lowering blocks, and the ELC with minor modifications. With 50psi in the shocks, I have 27.25" height in the back and a the best ride/handling I've achieved so far at that ride height.
live1053rulz
Nor Cal SyTy
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I'm all for rear coil-overs. I know leafs suck. IRS would be optimal, but might be impractical and start to take away from the fact that our trucks are still trucks. Having watched my Dad race cars (not drag race) all my life and having been taught how important brakes and especially suspension affects a car (or trucks) performance; I have a great appreciation for much more than a cars motor and drivetrain. I love corners, but I know our trucks are not racecars, they're trucks; so getting them setup as closely to racecars as possible sounds like a great idea. I've seen some of the air ride stuff out there; there are just so many options. I'd love to see a 3 or 4 link rear coilover setup (designed well or course) on our trucks.
I'm all for rear coil-overs. I know leafs suck. IRS would be optimal, but might be impractical and start to take away from the fact that our trucks are still trucks. Having watched my Dad race cars (not drag race) all my life and having been taught how important brakes and especially suspension affects a car (or trucks) performance; I have a great appreciation for much more than a cars motor and drivetrain. I love corners, but I know our trucks are not racecars, they're trucks; so getting them setup as closely to racecars as possible sounds like a great idea. I've seen some of the air ride stuff out there; there are just so many options. I'd love to see a 3 or 4 link rear coilover setup (designed well or course) on our trucks.
syclonekid43
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Re: Rear suspension?
im running a kp 4 link on my 92 bagged 2wd 4dr. should work for the back of a 4x4.
check out www.innovativeairsuspension.com
im running a kp 4 link on my 92 bagged 2wd 4dr. should work for the back of a 4x4.
check out www.innovativeairsuspension.com
live1053rulz
Nor Cal SyTy
Re: Rear suspension?
That's one of the companies that was at SEMA this year. They have so pretty cool stuff.
That's one of the companies that was at SEMA this year. They have so pretty cool stuff.
Re: Rear suspension?
Here's anothe option
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...atalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=28105
Here's anothe option
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...atalogId=10002&storeId=10001&categoryId=28105
MRKING
New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Rear suspension?
I almost did this a year ago , runs 440 from what e said . I prolly will still do it sometime . either way this post http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20731&highlight=rear+coil answers some of your q's . pics used to be up , but now are red x's .
I almost did this a year ago , runs 440 from what e said . I prolly will still do it sometime . either way this post http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20731&highlight=rear+coil answers some of your q's . pics used to be up , but now are red x's .
Re: Rear suspension?
Doe anybody know how well the rear coil over that turbo time is selling will work with the flex-a-forms and caltracs??
I have the springs and traction bars i want to install soon, but am not sure what to do for shocks?
Doe anybody know how well the rear coil over that turbo time is selling will work with the flex-a-forms and caltracs??
I have the springs and traction bars i want to install soon, but am not sure what to do for shocks?