So.... What mods to do...

[Kerr]

Hello all,

Ive been a memeber for a long time on here and have recelenty sold my supra turbo and am in the process of selling my porsche turbo. I'm in the market for a black / black TY or a cheaper other color that can be painted black. lol. There is a truck on here im interested in but i want to sale my porsche first...

Anyway i would like to put a TY in the low 11's or 10's with out breaking the bank.. I know ill need a built trans or a 4L80E, ( i have one of those in my suburban), around a 3000 stall... Then what. Ive searched the arcives and there is a lot of talk on PTE'S 51 or 54 mm, It seems like a new set of heads is also needed, a larger intercooler and ofcourse a fuel system. When it comes to computers are you all still running chips or has Hptuners come out with a set up for the TY's.

Given say a $10-15K price range for parts and labor what would you all recomend.

In the past ive had the top end cars so the builds are different, But with the police they are now there is no use for 12-1300 whp street cars. Id like to make the TY a lot quicker / faster than my cayenne, Its a 06 model turbo with intake and exhaust. We are 2100 feet elevation and it runs a dead consistant 14.00- 14.03 at 101-103 mph.. German crap pulls harder up top, the boost is limited .4bar in first and .6 bar in second, 3ed 4th 5th and 6th all go to .8 bar or past the gauge, only problem is those gears take you to jail lol.. It has a 2.2 60 foot and 1/8 mile is a 9.X at 70 mph. I know there is a weight difference, the cayenne is 6870 and 450hp..

For now im not interested in any body mods except maybe a 2" cowl hood and different wheels. But that can wait in return for going fast.

So let the suggestions fly.

 

[WyoSyclone]

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I'd read this first..... http://www.powertuneplus.com/
Josh did a great job of outlining mods...
Make sure the truck is in top condition first, then follow some of the guidelines in Josh's writeup...
The search button can provide you with further detail on additional threads that relate to a particular mod...

 

[BoostedSUV]

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You will need a standalone engine management ie big stuff 3 or F.A.S.T. Not worth the headache of trying to tune with a stock ECU. Your engine is only as good as the tune on it. :tup:

 

[Seti]

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I second what WyoSyclone said. Read through Josh's site, the info he has there is extensive and will make that 10-15k go a hell of a lot further for you than just throwing go fast parts at it will.

S.

 

[WyoSyclone]

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You will need a standalone engine management ie big stuff 3 or F.A.S.T. Not worth the headache of trying to tune with a stock ECU. Your engine is only as good as the tune on it. :tup:

Uhhh, not so sure I'd spend the money on it.... I do my tuning with Code59 and I believe it's a much more cost effective solution than going stand-alone. A person will have a learning curve with it, but the same would be true with FAST of BigStuff. My :2cents:

 

[hrodgmc]

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Both systems are binary and the engine doesn't know wheather gm or John Meaney made it. Last I looked none of the controllers had alot of safety built in such as hot modes.

If afr and timing are on, it's most likely max power anyway.
The rest is just bells and whistles.

 

[BoostedSUV]

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I was just going by what I hear and from my own experience. Stand alones are way more tunable than a stock ECM. I wouldn't spend the money either, my truck is tuned with a moates adapter and code 59 but I'm sure I could make it more driveable and have more power with a stand alone system. Most of the best running trucks that go fast and keep running are running Big Stuff 3 etc. If I'm wrong great, then I won't wish I spent the money on one. :tup:

 

[Kerr]

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Thanks for the info guys. I know big stuff 3 is good. the owner of that company designed the aem that my supra was running. Im not really wanting to learn that stuff my self, Id rather pay a expert and have it done correctley... also i like to fidget and with my luck id try to adjust something and blow it up..

Il go read that link posted above and keep you all posted on what i do.. I still havent sold the super vw lol so it might be a while before i pull the trigger.

Ive always one so figure now is the time.. Years ago back in 94 a friend had one with some sort of chip and exhaut and it was very impressive.. I know technology has come a long way but the awd lauches are hard to forget

 

[spooldup]

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tons of nice trucks available here. sorry to read you sold off the supra. Take a look in the classifieds here.

 

[s_blazin]

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buy an s10 and turbo it......much cheaper from the start

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

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we've been round this before - surely it isn't. New ECM, potentially a new drive train, exhaust system, sensors, turbo plumbing, IC setup etc etc..

Seems you're better off with a decent running Ty rather than trying to do a conversion, esp if you factor in the headaches of sourcing/learning etc..

 

[TYTILIDIE]

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we've been round this before - surely it isn't. New ECM, potentially a new drive train, exhaust system, sensors, turbo plumbing, IC setup etc etc..

Seems you're better off with a decent running Ty rather than trying to do a conversion, esp if you factor in the headaches of sourcing/learning etc..

Especially for low price these trucks are going for these days. Plus, you catapult yourself in to an elite ownership:rotf:

 

[s_blazin]

Re: So.... What mods to do...

we've been round this before - surely it isn't. New ECM, potentially a new drive train, exhaust system, sensors, turbo plumbing, IC setup etc etc..

Seems you're better off with a decent running Ty rather than trying to do a conversion, esp if you factor in the headaches of sourcing/learning etc..

wait wait wait.....when modding a truck and pointing for the 11's or 10's, as he is implying he would like to do, you are going to be changing all of those things you just mentioned. a new drivetrain is easy to get ahold of and install, (done it) and everything else will not remain stock anyways. so either depreciate a syty or an s10?

hmm well which ones are more easily found?

not bashing the modded syty's, i myself have one, but look at what i'm talking about. so you can either spend lots of money on a non modded truck, take off and most likely sell or junk all the syty specific items and then mod form there, (you will be starting over from scratch) or buy an s10 or blazer and just start modding without having to remove syty specific parts and worry about having to sell or junk them.

 

[R&C_RallySyTy]

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I'm sure you would need a bigger turbo then a 51-54mm. More like a 67-74mm. Correct me if I'm wrong to go 10-11s in a Ty.

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

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i see your point. Depends if you want it to look like a syty? A set of cladding is going to hit for about 2k at least noi? I think that the idea of preserving them is not the best - may as well start with a base model that was "designed" to go fast.

Not many people woluld want to do it all at once. You're right though -10s and 11s means pretty much a new truck. That said, some people have gone pretty fast with mostly stock stuff!

 

[Mario65]

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Heres the best advice. Buy one done. Look how many people are on this board with a truck on jack stands. They know their stuff and you want to step into a world that is very complex and difficult to grasp without countless hours of investment. Honestly look or ask for someone to offer you exactly what you want. Its out there for a fraction of the original cost. Life is too short to spend on the internet planning and studying to do what has been done and perfected. Even if the truck is perfect and ready to go you have alot of hours ahead of you learning how to tune it and keep it running.

My other option for you is to buy a stock truck and forget the 10's. They are beautiful and fun to own just the way they were stock.

OR I might trade you for your porsche...depends what it is.

Now that is the best advice hands down!

 

[s_blazin]

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meh not arguing, however i am all for preserving the virgins. my truck is modded but i got it that way and it will remain that way. but my vote is if you plan to mod a truck buy a non virgin..my thing is, one day there won't be any moe virgins if each person buys the nicest one to mod it all up.

just my :2cents:

anyway, back to OP's thread, please continue.

 

[s_blazin]

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heres the best advice. Buy one done. Look how many people are on this board with a truck on jack stands. They know their stuff and you want to step into a world that is very complex and difficult to grasp without countless hours of investment. Honestly look or ask for someone to offer you exactly what you want. Its out there for a fraction of the original cost. Life is too short to spend on the internet planning and studying to do what has been done and perfected. Even if the truck is perfect and ready to go you have alot of hours ahead of you learning how to tune it and keep it running.

My other option for you is to buy a stock truck and forget the 10's. They are beautiful and fun to own just the way they were stock.

Or i might trade you for your porsche...depends what it is.

Now that is the best advice hands down!

amen

 

[Kerr]

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long time no replay...

Up date, The all might porsche turbo deided it was a bigger pos that i already knew, so on a trip home from Orlando it decided to trip all the codes.. bla bla.... We stopped to see the family on the way home and it reset it self... so i traded it in on a 2009 impala SS and got boot back....

So now that its gone and i have some free money, do you all still think its best to buy a modified truck or a higher mileage truck that need some tlc... if you run across any feel free to post.

 

[qbnkiller]

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