Starter problem

mattw

Active member
Re: Starter problem

No, I don't. Full disclosure: GM Put the old Code Alarm system in this truck and used a Rear Defog dash switch for the ground side of the purple wire relay in the alarm box. That relay works,

If it were mine I'd bypass this and see what happens....
 

CavScout

Member
Re: Starter problem

Update: The bypass fixed it thus far. I'm going to do a second starting attempt tomorrow.

Sorry for the long wait. There was an accident of stupidity.

While under the truck I set the parking brake and placed the truck in neutral. I did this to move the flexplate to match up with the starter bendix. I neglected to put chocks under the rear wheels because I'm stupid.

The parking brake released while I was under it. I head the *pop* and turned my head to see what it was and the truck had already eased forward off the driver's side block (it was shorter than the passenger's side) and was then resting on my knees. Which were bent 90 degrees and while incredibly painful, probably saved my life. Gave me time to react. I pulled back on the sway bar and released my legs, allowing the truck to move forward again. The passenger side came down next and I held on to the sway bar aiming the crossmember to land at the bottom of my rib cage and above the belly button, turned my head to the side and prayed the trans. pan didn't hit too hard.. Since the driver's side had already came down there was minimum bounce.

Luckily I was using my slide board (a slick board used in bathrooms) as the truck moved forward I slid with it keeping my feet up and we came to rest on the bumper of my Cameo. After I stopped hyperventilating I made note I was not dead. Nothing made a snapping noise and the truck was only deflecting my ribs by about 3/8". HOORAY! But my ankle had been turned 90* and a knee was very much in pain. The driver's side had fell on top of my toolbox and was helping keep the truck up, a little.



After an hour of tapping the frame with the only wrench I could snag and hollering for help. I figured I was on my own. So I came up with a plan to cut the board I was laying on. Found my wire cutters and snipped the sides, ripping the rest of it.



Pulled the end to me and cut a notch in the side of it to grab the front wheel of the jack and pulled it slowly toward me.



Got it close enough to grab and stopped to thank the Dear Sweet Baby Jesus and then put it on the frame and pumped it off of me one handed.



After a trip to Das Krankenhaus for an overnighter. I came out with nothing broken. Just a very sprained ankle and some hefty bruising on a knee/ leg.

Gentlemen, use wheel chocks.

(TBone, the GT is fine. Nothing broken on her either.)
 

Quickstop [UK]

Combating adversyty.
Re: Starter problem

Jesus H Christ.

You are one lucky son of a bitch. Do you remember how Myclone got killed? I cannot believe you used blocks to prop up only one end. I'' glad you are ok but honestly, you're asking for it with that setup. I hope you recover fully and NEVER use such a setup in future.

:tdown:

Get well soon man.

:myclone:
 

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: Starter problem

X2. I had the truck come partially off the floor jack just the other day. Partial meaning the jack came out from under front Xmember and the truck landed on the anti-roll bar. I was NOT under the truck but I was right there. All it did was make a very loud noise. Woke me right up. Scary stuff. You're very lucky, don't press it.

I never knew the guy (Myclone) but I'm reminded of him every time the truck goes up. Bum deal,
 

TNPhoon

1of28
Re: Starter problem

Goddamn man...glad that this story turned out with a good ending.

Even with wheel chocks, jack stands, jacks, lifts, etc - I am always paranoid. The only time I don't get nervous under a vehicle is if I am in a pit.
 

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
Re: Starter problem

Glad you make it out of that accident with only minor injuries.

You will be much more careful from now on.

I am even afraid of jack stands. I like concrete blocks under the frame. They at least make me feel better.
 

Couger1968

Dazed and Confused
Re: Starter problem

Glad you make it out of that accident with only minor injuries.

You will be much more careful from now on.

I am even afraid of jack stands. I like concrete blocks under the frame. They at least make me feel better.

I was told never to use concrete blocks, because they could break if they were damaged or if you hit them right. I don't know if he was correct or not.
 

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
Re: Starter problem

I was told never to use concrete blocks, because they could break if they were damaged or if you hit them right. I don't know if he was correct or not.

They are in great shape. I only use them for holding my car up. If you can build a house on top of them. They should be able to hold one corner of a car.

I trust them holding more Than I trust that piece of metal holding in the notch on a jack stand.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: Starter problem

You are lucky, take this as a learning lesson. Even if you had used wheel chocks with your jack, I would not have gotten under the car. I ideally I like to use ramps and wheel chocks and if I can not use those, I use a jack stand in secure locations that I know aren't going to slip. I also use some type of back up incase one of those fails. My life or preventing serious injury is worth 15 minutes of my time make sure my vehicle are safely supported while i am working on them.
 

DaveP

Active member
Re: Starter problem

I'm glad the outcome of your educational experience was favorable. You're lucky you didn't suffocate.

You bring up another aspect of working on cars we sometimes don't think about when out in the shop by ourselves. That if something happens where we need assistance, it may be awhile before aid arrives.

I'm almost always by myself when working on cars, and the boats in the marina. I'm very cognizant of not letting something happen where I need assistance, but am not able to summon it.

Two weeks ago I was in Reno doing projects for my friend Pam. Her late husband built a neat shop about 50 yards from the house. I was out there installing a T-Case in her Yukon. I had the car on the 2-post lift, and had lowered it close to the floor so I could lay on the floor with my shoulders on the ground to lift the case out of the truck. It's too heavy for this old man to bench-lift out of the truck. The lift was not on the locks, but the tires were on the truck, and I was confident that if something did slip, I wouldn't be crushed. A Yukon has a lot more ground clearance than a Ty. I just didn't want to drop the case on my face or something. It all went well, and nothing happened, but I was out there about 4 hours by myself. When I got back to the house I suggested to Pam that she really should come out and check on me every now and then when I was working on vehicles on the lift. Just in case...... She said she will in the future. Cool.

Glad you're OK.
 

T-Bone

Active member
Re: Starter problem

(TBone, the GT is fine. Nothing broken on her either.)

Dude, jumped on here for a minute and saw this!!!

Glad you are still living. The GT isn't THAT important. Thinking she just wanted to be real close to you while you two were in private :).

Mistakes are profitable if we don't repeat them.....
 
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