help needed

mikael

New member
hi all, i am a new sy owner and need help, i change the thermostat (old one running cold).
now it seems to stall when running steady speed, and lag a bit when throtle is pushed. it iis running fine when cold.... ideas... :eyes:
 

cloneman315

Active member
Re: help needed

doubt its related but do your self a favor first.do all the tune up stuff plugs wires cap rotor fuel filter and put datamaster on it if u have it,also check timming etc then go from there.
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: help needed

welcome aboard. When you changed the t-stat, did you make sure to get all the air out of the system? I've heard of 4.3's doing weird stuff getting a vapor lock in the water pump.
+1 on what cloneman said about tuneup and datamaster. Best favor you can do yourself
 

mikael

New member
Re: help needed

thanks, plugs wires cap rotor are going to be change in the weekend, but it is defently a heat related thing, i change the broken themostate back in and it was running fine... but very cold, temp. gaunge is barly moving .
 

mikael

New member
Re: help needed

If air is traped how can i get it out, i have not seen a bleed valve anywere.... (i have change the waterpump to so it sounds posible)
 

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: help needed

Getting the air out can be tricky but here's my method albeit long. Start with a cold system and top off at the radiator. Run the motor until you see flow usually the coolant disappears. Top-off and continue until you can't add any more coolant. Every time you add temp drops and t-stat closes so this process can take awhile. In the end top radiator hose will be hot of course, coolant will be flowing and you can't add anymore. Make sure header tank is above the add line and the hose is connected. Fully Install rad cap and allow motor to cool completely, usually overnight is the easiest. Next morning before starting remove radiator cap and top off as necessary, same with header tank if below the add line. Reinstall cap and you're good to go.
 

berzerker

wookie
Re: help needed

why did u change the t-stat . heater not blowing warm enough air . or u thought the temp gauge not reading above middle mark was not normal. because if your not having heater issues you should leave the old t-stat in. the lower the engine temps the better.
 

mikael

New member
Re: help needed

the temp gauge was not moving at all !! and it was dead coold even after a long run. I have change too a 165 T. state. and the gauge is now showing 1/4 up.
 

vinnieTy

TY # 1889
Re: help needed

mikael said:
please explaine closed loop?

The thermostat opens and closes and when it is closed it is called a closed loop meaning that it is holding the water/coolant in the motor to get hot once it reaches its temperture what ever the thermostat is rated at it it will open and allow the coolant to flow so it gets rid of the hot coolant and replaces it with the cooler coolant from the radiator.

I hope that explains somthing :tup:
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: help needed

mikael said:
the temp gauge was not moving at all !! and it was dead coold even after a long run. I have change too a 165 T. state. and the gauge is now showing 1/4 up.
if I remember correctly, the temperature sensor for the gauge is on the driver's side cylinder head, so theoretically the t-stat shouldn't effect that... I'd try changing out the Coolant temp sensor on the manifold and see where that gets you.
also, you ought to test the old t-stat, just put it in some boiling water and see if it opens
 

mikael

New member
Re: help needed

the temp. sensor for the gaunge is working fine and the old t. state was open even when cold. so it was broken. but could the themp. sensor for the ECU, placed next to the T. state cause the trouble??
 

jjorgensen52

NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: help needed

mikael said:
the temp. sensor for the gaunge is working fine and the old t. state was open even when cold. so it was broken. but could the themp. sensor for the ECU, placed next to the T. state cause the trouble??
that's the one I was talking about... it controls fueling via an open or closed circuit. so, when the truck is cold it's got one fuel setting, once it warms up it has a different one. I think the problem comes if the sensor is in the cold circuit when the truck is warm, the fuel levels don't respond properly and cause stuttering. I suspect this was not a problem with the old t. stat because the truck never got properly warmed up ... that may even be why the sensor isn't working anymore. So, when it does warm up fueling is off. That part costs about 10 bucks, I'd replace it and see where that gets you
 
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