25 years!

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
The first regular sequenced VIN Syclone's rolled off the line 25 years ago today, January 18th, 1991. The Syclone is now officially 25 years old!
 

Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
Re: 25 years!

:woot: :bday:

In PA, you can now get Antique Plates (which eliminates annual inspection)

Who has the earliest VIN on the board?
 

Slow-Clone

Snow-Clone
Re: 25 years!

Time flies when you're having fun. I've owned mine for 13 years. I believe I can get classic car insurance on a 20 year old vehicle, meaning it won't be a daily driver, but insurance is fairly low. The cut off for emission tests is 1988 or older.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: 25 years!

The compnine data we crunched a few years ago shows the first 28 were built at Shreveport on 1/7/91 which was a Monday. It wasn't until Feb 26 that they were built on any day other than a Monday.

The production at Shreveport on Mondays was this:

1/7 = 28
1/14 = 65
1/21 = 88
2/11 = 146
2/18 = 146
2/25 = 41

My WAG is that the early Syclones were built at Shreveport under the supervision of management from Detroit and possibly PAS until the workers were familiar with, and experienced with the special steps unique to a Syclone. Picking a single day per week made it possible for these managers to travel and be present. Once the workers learned to build them, Syclones were built randomly among the other S-series Shreveport built.

It is cool that it's 25 years old. And still a POS. :grin:

I don't have the PAS build log for the first Syclone, but I did help enter some of the information. I suspect the 1/7 compnine date is when GM built them in Shreveport. I am of the opinion that 1/18 ship date in the Sportmachines database is the date PAS finished for final shipment. Here is an example of the build log. I am pretty sure this build log is PAS paper work.

 

Don W.

Stab it and steer it
Re: 25 years!

Time flies when you're having fun. I've owned mine for 13 years. I believe I can get classic car insurance on a 20 year old vehicle, meaning it won't be a daily driver, but insurance is fairly low. The cut off for emission tests is 1988 or older.

I've had "collector car" insurance on my Sy since I bought it. Seems to vary a bit from just under to just over $300.00 / year. No smog because of where I have it registered.
 

Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
Re: 25 years!

I've had "collector car" insurance on my Sy since I bought it. Seems to vary a bit from just under to just over $300.00 / year. No smog because of where I have it registered.

:roll: Ugg....California. Don't miss those high registration fees. We have tolls and safety inspections here in PA, but registration is cheap and I probably spend much less on all combined than I did registering cars in California (that's IF they passed smog).
 

Aeroking

e.i.
Re: 25 years!

I believe the PA Antique rules say you have to be over 25 years old from the production year. Which means the trucks aren't eligible until Jan 1 of 2017
 

Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
Re: 25 years!

I believe the PA Antique rules say you have to be over 25 years old from the production year. Which means the trucks aren't eligible until Jan 1 of 2017

As with most government docs, the definition is vague, but I think you're right:

Antique Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured more than 25 years
prior to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in
conformance with manufacturer specifications.

Classic Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured at least 15 years prior
to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in
conformity with manufacturer specifications and appearance.
 

GMC-YA

New member
Re: 25 years!

In South Carolina an antique plate makes the car ineligible for regular use. From the DMV's web site.



To obtain an antique license plate, your current title must be surrendered and the department will issue a new title marked Antique. The fee for a new title is $15.00. To qualify for an antique license plate, the automobile or motorcycle must be at least 25 years old. The vehicle is to be used in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades and similar events, but shall not be used for general transportation. When the vehicle is sold, junked, or otherwise disposed of, you must surrender the antique license plate to the department. The fee for the plate is $10.00.
 

SY-1193

Active member
Re: 25 years!

:woot: :bday:
In PA, you can now get Antique Plates (which eliminates annual inspection)
Who has the earliest VIN on the board?
Steve, this is true. If you remember you got this information from me.
Not only does it eliminate PA State Safety Inspection but also PA State Emissions and you have a permanent registration that does not need annual renewal. The savings from all three annual fees by far outweighs the cost of the plate and new registration which is a one time expense. $75.00 for the Antique plate and $51.00 for the certificate of title registration fee. PA Form MV-11 It takes about 3 weeks to get your antique plate and registration from the state from when they receive your form and your payment clears.
I believe the PA Antique rules say you have to be over 25 years old from the
production year. Which means the trucks aren't eligible until Jan 1 of 2017
Your interpretation is incorrect. The 1991 GMC Syclone was eligible Friday, Jan 1, 2016.
I believe the PA Antique rules say you have to be over 25 years old from the production year. Which means the trucks aren't eligible until Jan 1 of 2017
As with most government docs, the definition is vague, but I think you're right:
Antique Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured more than 25 years prior to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformance with manufacturer specifications.
Classic Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured at least 15 years prior to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformity with manufacturer specifications and appearance.
Ah…you doubt the information you were given. Thanks for your vote of confidence.

My PA Antique plate and PA Antique permanent registration came today for my Syclone.
Anyone else get one too?
 
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Baythan

SY2TY2SY2TY
Re: 25 years!

Steve, this is true. If you remember you got this information from me.

Ah…you doubt the information you were given. Thanks for your vote of confidence.

Don't take it personally, dude. I forget shit every day.
 

Anarchy99

New member
Re: 25 years!

Steve, this is true. If you remember you got this information from me.
Not only does it eliminate PA State Safety Inspection but also PA State Emissions and you have a permanent registration that does not need annual renewal. The savings from all three annual fees by far outweighs the cost of the plate and new registration which is a one time expense. $75.00 for the Antique plate and $51.00 for the certificate of title registration fee. PA Form MV-11 It takes about 3 weeks to get your antique plate and registration from the state from when they receive your form and your payment clears.

Your interpretation is incorrect. The 1991 GMC Syclone was eligible Friday, Jan 1, 2016.

Ah…you doubt the information you were given. Thanks for your vote of confidence.

My PA Antique plate and PA Antique permanent registration came today for my Syclone.
Anyone else get one too?

First antique tag on a syclone?

It's still a first if it's the first. Maybe not a huge milestone, but for older Vic's, we gotta take what we can get since most other milestones are met
 

Sy10

Still shifting...
Re: 25 years!

Damn, that means I'm closing in on 25 years old. Time flies.

On the topic of PA antique plates, my dad's Syclone was due for inspection back in September. Now that it's eligable for AP's, will I still need to get it inspected for them to issue the new plates, or does past due inspection not matter?
 

SY-1193

Active member
Re: 25 years!

Damn, that means I'm closing in on 25 years old. Time flies.

On the topic of PA antique plates, my dad's Syclone was due for inspection back in September. Now that it's eligable for AP's, will I still need to get it inspected for them to issue the new plates, or does past due inspection not matter?

You are good.. Just need the title, that form MV-11 and a check. (OR) You can go to a tag place and do it too they will fill it out for you and send a courier to Harrisburg for a fee of about $35. extra. Real easy that way. My truck had expired inspection also.

Don't be shocked when they take your actual title. You have to give it to them. You get a new one issued from the state that says Antique. You will get a new plate, registration in one envelope and the title in another. Don't have to worry about inspection after that or registration. It is all permanent (for PA anyway).
 
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Sy10

Still shifting...
Re: 25 years!

You are good.. Just need the title, that form MV-11 and a check. (OR) You can go to a tag place and do it too they will fill it out for you and send a courier to Harrisburg for a fee of about $35. extra. Real easy that way. My truck had expired inspection also.

Don't be shocked when they take your actual title. You have to give it to them. You get a new one issued from the state that says Antique. You will get a new plate, registration in one envelope and the title in another. Don't have to worry about inspection after that or registration. It is all permanent (for PA anyway).

Thanks, Keith. I knew inspection was covered, didn't know the reg was, too. Good to know. And there is a title and tag shop at the bottom of the hill that the three of us are good friends with, so I will just do that. I'll have to keep that in mind for the GT next year.
 
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