Turbo Removal

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AbesTy

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Tried the archive search but nuttin...My stock turbo just blew and I need to replace it. What's involved here? How many accessories do I have to remove to get this thing out?...It's got ~130K miles so rusty nuts suck!
Also, what's your recommendations on a new/used one? I want to keep it close to stock. I've already dumped a mint into this POS so I'd like to keep it reasonable...

Thanks
 
jwaller

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
I've got several stock turbo's I can send you and you dont need to remove the exhaust housing. that means no rusty bolts to mess with. email aim and PM me and I can help you.
 
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redty

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Tip of the Day

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One thing, do yourself a favor when you start replacing things. Ditch the studs and replace with Stainless Bolts (downpipe), as a matter of fact, replace all bolts, washers with stainless, it will be a little less "painless" the next time. May run you $30.00 or so at Lowes or some other place, but well worth it. 8)
 
SY2932

SY2932

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A can of copper/nickel anti seize compound resistant to 2000 degrees F would be wise when you put it all back together too...

Mike Campbell
 
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Richme

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Ok, I guess no gurus are going to chime in, so I will give you my foggy memory of the ordeal.

The hardest part is removing the bolts from the manifold, for those I used 2 stubbies (15mm), as I recall, one on top of the other for leverage. You might want to heat the bolts up, or spray some WD-40 ( I know there is something better, can't remember what it is called). Then take off the other connections, and viola, done. Then call Jwaller for another stock turbo.

HTH alittle,
 
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JNR

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Richme said:
Ok, I guess no gurus are going to chime in, so I will give you my foggy memory of the ordeal.

The hardest part is removing the bolts from the manifold, for those I used 2 stubbies (15mm), as I recall, one on top of the other for leverage. You might want to heat the bolts up, or spray some WD-40 ( I know there is something better, can't remember what it is called). Then take off the other connections off, and viola, done. Then call Jwaller for another stock turbo.

HTH alittle,
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The other penetrant spray I have used with great success on turbo's, downpipes, manifolds, etc... is Liquid Wrench. Spray it on and let it soak overnight. Smelly stuff, but it does work!
 
Loeryder

Loeryder

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PB blast works awesome on rust, WD40 is not nearly good enough for the tough stuff.

Soak, let it sit, soak it some more, let it sit,
sneak in the garage with the lights off,
stubbie wrench and something to "cheat" on it with in hand
walk right up to it, and throw down.

It won't even see ya coming...

You are making me dread removing mine next month.
What size are the bolts anyways?
I'm not buying a whole set of stubbies
 
myclone

myclone

Donating Member
I wouldnt do stainless bolts.. They will gladly weld themselves to the cast iron and youll never get em out(BTDT).

I went with grade 8 steel with liberal coating of the graphite/whatever anti sieze thats good to ~2200F. The anit seize that Im talking about is expensive (~25 bucks for 14oz) but it seems to work good for me. Permatex makes it I think.
 
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AbesTy

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4 hours later...one broken wrench, many skinned up knuckles, coolant on the floor and those damn bolts finally gave up the farm. I heard stainless isn't a good idea and anti seize is the answer. Found out what caused the turbo to puke...any you guys heard of the nut coming off the turbine shaft?? Mine did. Did a hell of a job on the blades...then a few seconds later the bearing went south and let what was left of the blades chew up the inside of the turbo housing...All in a manner of 30 seconds! And the nut got thrown back up the stock intake tube and was lying in the bottom of the filter housing next to the K/N!
 
0966Sy

0966Sy

Code what?
Luckly the nut didnt make way towards your intercooler. Are you guy's talking about getting the turbo off without air tools, wow i dont even want to think of doing that. Thats why im having a professional install my PTE 52.

Erik
 
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Richme

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Erik said:
Are you guy's talking about getting the turbo off without air tools, wow i dont even want to think of doing that. Thats why im having a professional install my PTE 52.

Erik
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I tried but there doesn't seem to be enough room to get one on, at least, I couldn't. I'd like to hear if someone is/was able to use one.
 
0966Sy

0966Sy

Code what?
Ya I couldnt amagine being able to remove the turbo/dp and reinstall without air tools :eek: It would be a bitch and take way to many time consuming hours. Thats why im going to leave it to a professional. One of these days i'll be able to afford air tools and i'll have at it.

Im having chris at conley's do the install on my PTE 52/ 9/11 3000k stall on a virgin tranny :-? Dont ask how much for labor, i have to many things i need to have them do for me :( (b/c lack of air tools :cry: ) Should be getting the PTE kit soon from Keiths GP, Also awaiting for my 3 core Griffen radiator custom fabed w/ dual electric fans from mike at A&R. Got a Griffen CCHE im going to mount Spal dual electrics behind also. And then i want to get some 2'' drop Flex-A-Forms. And that be about it, im going to install the 50# Delphi's myself. Not to tuff of a job, at least you do not need air tools. :D

Erik
 
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Richme

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Erik said:
Ya I couldnt amagine being able to remove the turbo/dp and reinstall without air tools :eek: It would be a bitch and take way to many time consuming hours. Thats why im going to leave it to a professional. One of these days i'll be able to afford air tools and i'll have at it.

Im having chris at conley's do the install on my PTE 52/ 9/11 3000k stall on a virgin tranny :-? Dont ask how much for labor, i have to many things i need to have them do for me :( (b/c lack of air tools :cry: )
Erik
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Erik, sounds like air tools are an excuse for not doing most of the work yourself. Like I said, I do not believe you CAN use air tools on the turbo bolts, as far as the tranny, I believe you can get away without using air tools on most of that removal/installation, in fact, when I did mine, I hardly used my air tools. There is a very good write up posted on this board on removal of tranny.

So point is, for these 2 exercises you really do not need air tools, however, the amount of money you are going to spend on labor will equal much more than the cost of air tools.

So what is your excuse?

Good luck,
 
SY2932

SY2932

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the amount of money you are going to spend on labor will equal much more than the cost of air tools.
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I had to pull my transmission for a rebuild two weeks before the NATS talk about a "trial by fire". I had never pulled a transmission in my life. The write up on Huryde's webpage by Blake made it all possible with NO air tools required: http://www.syty.huryde.com/html/Tech/tranny/part1.htm . And I have all the major pneumatic tools made... The first time I pulled it, I took two days because I took my time and tried not to mess anything else up. Took my transmission to a local shop the be rebuilt and that cost $600 alone. Just for shits and giggles I asked the guy who rebuilt my trans how much for them to remove and replace and he told me $700 :eek: ! After the NATs, I had some torque converter issues and I had to pull my tranmission again. This time I did it in two hours flat by myself.

You may not have to pay as much to have your trans removed and replaced but, $700 will buy you a decent air compressor and several pneumatic tools to boot. In fact, my whole setup cost me less than that. I'm not gonna dog ya and say you are foolish for not doing it yourself. It's your money and you can spent it as you see fit... Just putting the word out that the information is out there to allow you to do it yourself if you choose to do so. With the right tools and determination, you can do it! Hell before I got my syclone, I never even changed my own oil :roll: . Personally, I don't like anyone to wrench on my truck except myself. Besides, it feels good KNOWING that something was done right and the fact that you are saving a big chunk of change is the cherry on top :D . HTH's

Mike Campbell
 
0966Sy

0966Sy

Code what?
Mike, I do believe you, it is at all possible to complete such chores as the tranny removel/install and Turbo removal/install with all all the needed hand tools. All I have for tools is 2 rachet sizes and some sockets, nothing fancy just some husky's from home depot. I may get lucky and get a nice 350 piece set of craftsman tools w/ a air compressor for christmas and i'll definatly be doing the turbo myself, i'll have to check out huryde's page before i decide on the tranny though :-? But untill then all my money is going to parts. Thanks for huryde's link

Erik'
 
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Richme

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Erik said:
Mike, I do believe you, it is at all possible to complete such chores as the tranny removel/install and Turbo removal/install with all all the needed hand tools. Erik'
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Geeze Erik, 2 people tell ya that it can be done, what's not to believe. I used no air tools on the turbo, but I did use some on the tranny....not many, most had to be done without.

But best of luck in you endeavor, which ever direction you go.
 
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