rebuilding typhoon motor
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B.A.M.F. BMW Tech
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
build it right the first time
-4bolt mains
-.30 over
-forged pistons and rods
-high volume oil pump
try raceprovenmotors, turbotime,campbell automotive
build it right the first time
-4bolt mains
-.30 over
-forged pistons and rods
-high volume oil pump
try raceprovenmotors, turbotime,campbell automotive
wantingasy
Active member
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
LOL....no vortecs
LOL....no vortecs
wantingasy
Active member
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
Definately get the 4 bolt mains, forged rod and pistons, as mentioned earlier. Also, for daily driving and not stock I would go for an ultimate chip, 50# inj, 3 bar map, 20g turbo....that should be a good DD/fast street car....Probably low 12's with the right tuning...ranky650 said:
#2875
built, not bought
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
ok there are two things here that are contradicting. you want to spend money but you aren't going to push the engine. hmm. well if you are want streetability then i would say to keep your stock turbo or get one the same size or smaller with ball bearings, something that spools up quick. since you will be staying close to stock you might as well reuse your rods and pistons, no need to go heavy duty if you aren't going to be using it, no need for 4 bolt mains. instead spend your money on vortecs, bb turbo, and ignition. run low boost. i think that would be the ultimate street machine.
also, i guarantee after you do all this work and have the engine back in you will wish you went with 4 bolt mains, forged internals, and a turbo that will require you modify or take out something just so the big bitch will fit.
just remember to have fun doing whatever it is you decide to do.
ranky650 said:
ok there are two things here that are contradicting. you want to spend money but you aren't going to push the engine. hmm. well if you are want streetability then i would say to keep your stock turbo or get one the same size or smaller with ball bearings, something that spools up quick. since you will be staying close to stock you might as well reuse your rods and pistons, no need to go heavy duty if you aren't going to be using it, no need for 4 bolt mains. instead spend your money on vortecs, bb turbo, and ignition. run low boost. i think that would be the ultimate street machine.
also, i guarantee after you do all this work and have the engine back in you will wish you went with 4 bolt mains, forged internals, and a turbo that will require you modify or take out something just so the big bitch will fit.
just remember to have fun doing whatever it is you decide to do.
12secondSY
Syty Killer :(
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
My stock engine melted a piston. Dont do that its bad.
My stock engine melted a piston. Dont do that its bad.
SeattleSy#1255
Category 5 Conservative
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
LOL.........3K won't even get you a short block. I don't know where you guys get your figures, but 10K is much closer to realistic....that is probably a low ball figure. It does depend on his own labor of course, but assuming you are talking a build short block, forged, then throw in heads, IC, turbo, exhaust, injecters, tuning/chip, and a million small 100+ dollar items (from gaskets, cam, ARP hardware, etc), you are at 10K easy.
We haven't even discussed a tranny that can hold the power, a TC, etc..
LOL.........3K won't even get you a short block. I don't know where you guys get your figures, but 10K is much closer to realistic....that is probably a low ball figure. It does depend on his own labor of course, but assuming you are talking a build short block, forged, then throw in heads, IC, turbo, exhaust, injecters, tuning/chip, and a million small 100+ dollar items (from gaskets, cam, ARP hardware, etc), you are at 10K easy.
We haven't even discussed a tranny that can hold the power, a TC, etc..
#2875
built, not bought
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
all numbers are approximate, i don't have the time look up everything. also, this is assuming you have tools, brushes for cleaning your block etc.
block with crank: $50 mine was actually free... if you can't find a block for under 100 you suck, get a new hobby.
4 bolt mains: $80
arp studs $100 (big guess)
drill for 4 bolt mains: free, if you don't have or know someone with a bridgeport you need to get a new hobby.
block align bore; bore and hone cylinders; install cam bearings: $250
rods and bearings: $400
pistons: $500 (wild guess here)
cam $250
timing set $80
oil pan gasket: $30
timing cover gasket: $10
freeze plug set: $10
main /cam bearings: $50 (guess)
arp cam bolts: $30?????
ok i'm SURE i forgot something but there is a short block capable of 400HP EASY and i'm not even up to $2,000. i know things are a little more expensive in seattle but come on 10K for a SHORT BLOCK??????????
do i need to go into how to set up a set of big valve p&p vortec heads for under $500????? i know some of you pay like 3 grand for vortecs and i feel really sorry for you. it makes me so mad that people think these trucks are so expensive to mod. be smart and do some shit yourselves and don't get ripped off by vendors selling pointless mods.
all numbers are approximate, i don't have the time look up everything. also, this is assuming you have tools, brushes for cleaning your block etc.
block with crank: $50 mine was actually free... if you can't find a block for under 100 you suck, get a new hobby.
4 bolt mains: $80
arp studs $100 (big guess)
drill for 4 bolt mains: free, if you don't have or know someone with a bridgeport you need to get a new hobby.
block align bore; bore and hone cylinders; install cam bearings: $250
rods and bearings: $400
pistons: $500 (wild guess here)
cam $250
timing set $80
oil pan gasket: $30
timing cover gasket: $10
freeze plug set: $10
main /cam bearings: $50 (guess)
arp cam bolts: $30?????
ok i'm SURE i forgot something but there is a short block capable of 400HP EASY and i'm not even up to $2,000. i know things are a little more expensive in seattle but come on 10K for a SHORT BLOCK??????????
do i need to go into how to set up a set of big valve p&p vortec heads for under $500????? i know some of you pay like 3 grand for vortecs and i feel really sorry for you. it makes me so mad that people think these trucks are so expensive to mod. be smart and do some shit yourselves and don't get ripped off by vendors selling pointless mods.
MotorMouth
Member
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
My old Ty, now owned by Jer, has the folowing parts:
*Stock block bored .030 over & all oil passsages/drain ports were debured and smoothed out.
*Stock crank turned down .010 on the mains and .020 on the rods & micro polished.
*New L35 rods shot peened (sp?) for stress relief & machined to accept the Speed Pro floating pins.
*L35 heads slightly worked on the intake side and machined for larger springs.
*Ported stock intake
*Comp Cams (I think LT1) springs
*GMPP billet steel 2 bolt main caps
*Z28 oil pump with welded pick-up
*Comp Cams double roller timing chain
*Speed Pro .030 over pistons with coated skirts
*Speed Pro rings
*GMPP 1.6 self alighn roller rockers
*ARP head studs
*ARP main cap bolts
*GM head gaskets
*Stock cam
*Comp Cams push rods
*Edlbrock aluminum water pump
*B&M flex plate
*Misc. gaskets and such
This was around three grand with labor, as well I assembeled the long block my self. With a T3-T4 hybrid turbo (about the size of a PTE52) 3" downpipe, A2A intercooler, 50lb injectors and alky injection this combo went a 12.2X in the 1/4 at Bandimere on pump gas (Jer may have some corrections to this, my memory may be rusty). Not a ton of equipment involved
You don't need a ton of money to go fast and be reliable.
My old Ty, now owned by Jer, has the folowing parts:
*Stock block bored .030 over & all oil passsages/drain ports were debured and smoothed out.
*Stock crank turned down .010 on the mains and .020 on the rods & micro polished.
*New L35 rods shot peened (sp?) for stress relief & machined to accept the Speed Pro floating pins.
*L35 heads slightly worked on the intake side and machined for larger springs.
*Ported stock intake
*Comp Cams (I think LT1) springs
*GMPP billet steel 2 bolt main caps
*Z28 oil pump with welded pick-up
*Comp Cams double roller timing chain
*Speed Pro .030 over pistons with coated skirts
*Speed Pro rings
*GMPP 1.6 self alighn roller rockers
*ARP head studs
*ARP main cap bolts
*GM head gaskets
*Stock cam
*Comp Cams push rods
*Edlbrock aluminum water pump
*B&M flex plate
*Misc. gaskets and such
This was around three grand with labor, as well I assembeled the long block my self. With a T3-T4 hybrid turbo (about the size of a PTE52) 3" downpipe, A2A intercooler, 50lb injectors and alky injection this combo went a 12.2X in the 1/4 at Bandimere on pump gas (Jer may have some corrections to this, my memory may be rusty). Not a ton of equipment involved
You don't need a ton of money to go fast and be reliable.
SeattleSy#1255
Category 5 Conservative
Re: rebuilding typhoon motor
Never heard of such a thing.
MotorMouth said:
Never heard of such a thing.