4 smoking

#4ty

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there are alot of guys in here that say they cant build to much boost on a launch, because they will smoke all 4. my truck runs very well and I cant smoke all 4 off the line no matter how much boost I build, My ? is could somthing be wrong with my truck, I ran a 1.8** At the 60, which seems normal, just wondering.
 

sy2185

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If you have a stock chip the boost limit launch will be engaged, limiting boost off the line. Some say you can overcome this by building more the 10 lbs. boost but I'm unsure if they mean since the truck was started or after you pull to the line. I'd stage for a launch, build as much boost as possible(don't power brake more than a few seconds for the trans' sake) and once over 10 lbs. either pull out a bit and respool to launch over the 1 or 2 lbs allowed stock, or just pin it and lay waste to your tires. My truck didn't have this feature when I got it(possible chip in it as it goes way over 120mph too) but totally stock 2 lbs hazed the tires for a foot or two and as much boost as possible left 2-6 feet of rubber.
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JoeLutz

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Actually I think most times it only spins three wheels instead of four due to the open front diff. Is yours just not spinning at all or is it just roasting the back tires?
 

Loeryder

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Maybe we should ask SPiN...

Do these trucks spin 3 or all 4???
Just givin you shit man. :lol:

If RR tunes your truck it is supposed to spin all 4 thats part of the deal.
Thats how you know if you got your moneys worth or not.

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turbojimmy

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I don't know if it's normal or not, but I get substantially more spin out of the back before the front grabs. All within a second or two of each other, but enough that the back will kick out before I hear the front tire(s) bark. It'll also kick the back out if I gun it on sharp turns before the front tires will grab and straighten it out.

Jim
 

Tooky

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Well 65% of the torque goes to the rear and only 35% goes to the front so I am guessing (?) it is what causes that.

I'm not sure how you guys can tell which tires are spinning.. One, two, three wheel peels all sound the same to me.
 

Mephisto

These trucks are cursed
my back tires spin, if i launch with more than 3lbs of boost, and i have brand new tires... what im wondering is... if only the rear tires spin and the fronts stay put, isnt that bad for the transfer case?

i remember reading some shit about that messing with the coupling and eventually causing problems??

btw, i get 1.8xx 60' times with my stock sy, so i think yours is ok

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InvisiBill

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The stock chip has a first run boost limit built in. I'm not sure on the details, but it is mentioned in the owner's manual. If you start your truck up, pull out on the road and floor it, you'll only get like 8-10psi of boost.

Sometimes I can just let up on the gas pedal a hair for a tiny bit, and then it'll fly up to 15psi when I put the pedal back down. Other times I have to let off the gas completely. I've noticed it more in the cold weather, so it could be that the boost just isn't dropping enough now when I let off. I've only noticed it right after I start my truck, as opposed to after it's in Park or something.

I have noticed occasionally that there doesn't seem to be a limit. I'm not sure what exactly the limiter looks for to unlimit it, but maybe it was still warm from last time, and the chip saw it as ok to not limit? Or maybe it just bounced off the boost limiter or I subconsciously let up on the gas enough that it hit and cleared it? *shrug*
 

bdubb

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On 2002-01-05 21:55, Loeryder wrote:
Maybe we should ask SPiN...

Do these trucks spin 3 or all 4???
Just givin you shit man. :lol:

If RR tunes your truck it is supposed to spin all 4 thats part of the deal.
Thats how you know if you got your moneys worth or not.

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hahhahahhahah
 
A bad coupling in the xfer case causes that to happen. It's toast. O.G. Dave P. gave a clinic during a wrench session one day.

Jack the front left tire off the ground, try to turn the propshaft with a screwdriver or something....if it turns "freely" or without much effort-the VC is toasted (at least this is how I think you do it).

my back tires spin, if i launch with more than 3lbs of boost,
i remember reading some shit about that messing with the coupling and eventually causing problems??
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
On 2002-01-23 11:09, once again its on wrote:
A bad coupling in the xfer case causes that to happen. It's toast. O.G. Dave P. gave a clinic during a wrench session one day.
Sorry but I just don't beleive that. Everyone's SyTys seem to exhibit this behavior. In addition, I saw Marty's 5000 mile Marlboro generate smoke from the rear tires spinning doing a brake-stand. I have a photograph actually. Either this is normal behavior or Marty beats the hell out of his Marlboro and has toasted his viscous coupling? Along with everyone else?
 

JoeLutz

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On 2002-01-23 12:40, typhoonrider wrote:
i wanna spin my 4 tires too :grin:
Just take out your AWD transfercase and put in a 4wd, then weld your spider gears in the front differential and you will spin all four or break something. Just don't try to turn afterwards.

In case you don't realize, I'm just kidding. :wink:
 

Eluding

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I guess my dragstrip is prepping the line well, because I launch off of 14 psi and have NEVER spun any tires whatsover with a 1.80 sixty foot time. Of course, this is with a mostly stock truck, but I'm running hard compound all-season Yokohomas also.
 
I would think if you left with 14 psi and you didn't get wheel spin your 60ft would be better.I was gettin 1.6s at 5 psi,you are talking about a sy ?
 

SY732

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IMO if they were preping well you woud be running 1.6's!

With decent prep my stocker (w/Dig chip) runs 1.7's leaving with 2-2.5lbs on the gauge, any more and I break em loose, of course this could be the fact that she spikes to 22lbs in first!
 
Everyone's? Not mine....not most. You don't have to beat the truck for something to break......parts break/wear for different reasons. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal unless it's significantly altering my 60's.

Everyone's SyTys seem to exhibit this behavior.
Either this is normal behavior or Marty beats the hell out of his Marlboro and has toasted his viscous coupling? Along with everyone else?
 

Eluding

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On 2002-01-24 12:55, 92 mean green TY wrote:
I would think if you left with 14 psi and you didn't get wheel spin your 60ft would be better.I was gettin 1.6s at 5 psi,you are talking about a sy ?
Yeah, it is a Syclone. I can promise you I'm not getting any spin. I wish I could 60' that well with 5 psi. When bracket racing I usually leave at 8 psi for consistancy, 14 psi takes too long to build. With 8 psi I'm only getting 2.0 60' times. Hell, now I'm worried(pissed) that my 60' times aren't MUCH better. My truck is well-tuned but all stock, if that makes a difference. What's the deal? Do you guys still have the stock stall converter? Mine will stall at 2600 rpm under boost.

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SPiN

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On 2002-01-24 20:14, Eluding wrote:
On 2002-01-24 12:55, 92 mean green TY wrote:
I would think if you left with 14 psi and you didn't get wheel spin your 60ft would be better.I was gettin 1.6s at 5 psi,you are talking about a sy ?
Yeah, it is a Syclone. I can promise you I'm not getting any spin. I wish I could 60' that well with 5 psi. When bracket racing I usually leave at 8 psi for consistancy, 14 psi takes too long to build. With 8 psi I'm only getting 2.0 60' times. Hell, now I'm worried(pissed) that my 60' times aren't MUCH better. My truck is well-tuned but all stock, if that makes a difference. What's the deal? Do you guys still have the stock stall converter? Mine will stall at 2600 rpm under boost.

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Wow, I would think you would be spinning a lot more. Are you taking these readings off of the stock boost gauge?
 

Eluding

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I use an Autometer gauge. I've been thinking...maybe I have some crappy generic tranny shop converter in my truck. It's possible since I bought the truck last spring and I don't know a lot about its service history. I took it out for testing after my last post. It stalls at 1700 at 5 psi, 2100 at 10 psi and 2600 at 14 psi. Could someone tell if that is inline with what a Syclone converter should be stalling at? Thanks.
 
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