Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

[twin74s]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Heres some interesting infoon the new GTR gots to think about the long run too if your going to buy one.


The "black box" records endless variables and can't be accessed through any normal OBD/CAN interface. Our scan tools won't talk to it, its an entire different unit kept in a suitcase with a MFing combo lock on it!

The car comes with such an aggressive alignment from the factory customers will be asked if they would like the vehicle set up for street or track use as it will eat tires in track config.

Endless waivers about the loud ass tranny, loud ass tires, etc.If you should decide to track it and have it set up that way the black box will record you boost psi, tranny temps, tranny psi etc. and if you use race mode you supposedly have a mileage window to come in for service or by by warranty coverage.

When you come in for that service you will find tranny fluid that is nearly 100/qt and it needs a little over ten, front brake pads around 800, rears around 700. Rotors over 1g a pop. Tires 500+. yadda yadda. I love that they advertise it as the affordable supercar but I find it to be anything but. Regular fluid interval on the tranny is 18mo/18k miles.

These are dealer cost on parts as of right now. So these prices do not include dealer mark up.

Engine= $28,000

Transmission= $18,000

Trans fluid= $90 dollars a quart [takes 10 qts]

All pads and rotors [have to replace all 4 wheels as a set for proper operation] $7400

just little tidbits igot from a friend that was doing some research on them.

 

[Tooky]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Wow... VERY nice post twin74s!!! You don't hear info like that in the glossy advertising, that's for sure..

 

[twin74s]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

yea the dealer doesnt spout that info out much....I personally do NOT like the car at all. Its ugly and takes all the driver out of the car....If you are a bad driver but want a fast car buy one. If you are a DRIVER like most of us are buy something different. Something that challenges you, other wise what is the fun in it?

 

[SYO237]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Was just at my local Nissan Dealer. They have 3 coming in, all 3 are sold. They were priced at $15,000 over MSRP. While there, they had a Nismo 350 sitting on the showroom. Looked alright, wasnt crazy about the front and rear splitters.

 

[db239]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Trophy Nissan here in Dallas got one last week. I was buying a car as they rolled it into the showroom. I got pics on my camera phone but they arent that great. You should have seen all the people going nuts over it. Dont know if it was true but they said it was the second one in the US.

 

[Mongoose]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

I'd take the ZR-1 for sure over the GTR. I'm very skeptical about it due to all the hype. That newspaper said the one that lapped the ring in 7:29 was making 693 horsepower, yet everyone says it was stock. Guess we'll have to wait and see if it lives up to the hype. I'm sure that everyone has already seen the Z06 vs GTR street race vid, so 1 for the good guys.

 

[Mario65]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Id rather have the new CTS-V.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8ZiO6ebn0

Amazingly quiet and fast.

The zr1 is faster but think how loud it is and hard the guy is working to get the not much faster time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

 

[Camaro67racer]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

If you are a bad driver but want a fast car buy one. If you are a DRIVER like most of us are buy something different. Something that challenges you, other wise what is the fun in it?

this describes the GT-R exactly! :tup:

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

I just read that the ZR-1 did the Ring in 7 minutes, 26.4 seconds, in completely stock trim, full tank of gas, and had a headwind on the main straight. :tup: (read about it here )

Now... I just need to find the official video. :lol:

ZR-1.. :drool:

Crap, you beat me to it. There is a quick write up in the new super chevy mag. They said it is rated at 638 hp. Fastest production supercar in the world now..... way to go GM.

Knocking a pushrod V-8 is imo, a crappy shot at a proven driveline. Personally, making the power that GM is getting out of these new LS motors is incredible. Look at the cobra, supercharged DOHC 5.4 liter v8 only making 490 hp, not impressive. 505hp out of a 7 liter SMALL BLOCK is awesome. Yeah fancy engineering is great and all but consider how many times the vette team has won lemans with these engines. On another note the comment was made about american technology in the engines, gm has variable valve timing in a pushrod v8 now. They have the best diesel in the world next to mercedes, per motor trend article. The technology is there for sure just utilizing it is the problem. Pontiac G-8 GT, 34 grand and puts up performance #'s that match a BMW M5. Yeah the GTR is cool on paper but to drive one could be a let down. A friend of mine loves the Sy/Ty's but always says that an evo is better. Build a sy/ty now with the technology avaiable and these things would be unreal. Like Dean said buy a nice sy or ty for 15 g's and put 15 into it and holy shit, hang on. Unfortunately the younger generation has no idea what real seat of your pants power is, big hp v-8, rear wheel drive fun. Long live american performance. Besides the corvette has been around since 1953, it is an american icon and GM will step up to defend that any time they are challenged. Sorry to be so long winded and one sided but to bash the small block chevy is silly, whether it is 1st gen or the new ls engine.

 

[CarbonFiber AWD]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

yea the dealer doesnt spout that info out much....I personally do NOT like the car at all. Its ugly and takes all the driver out of the car....If you are a bad driver but want a fast car buy one. If you are a DRIVER like most of us are buy something different. Something that challenges you, other wise what is the fun in it?

:rotf: C'mon David. You haven't even SAT your butt in one let alone driven one ( of ANY year ,for that matter) Pretty big hater for zero experiances with them ! I'll admit too, I still enjoy driving one of my carbed no bells older rides from time to time....but.

I personally still find it amusing when people compare a 4 seater pig weighted sedan with a few NEW whistles and bells to Americas staple supercar.:squint: I still think the Vette should be more like a full minute ahead of all.This bums some.

I would however enjoy seeing our domestic manufacturers develope something technilogically aligned with the GT-R and THEN see how powerful they could make a comparitive sedan. Maybe the next gen Caddy ?? SInce so many of you are highly impressed with the LS motors final HP figures with basic pushrod designs....just think what the LS based huge 6.0 liter engine would be like with heads as well engineered as the Nissans or Benz's ??
People sure get touchy when the Vettes numbers get challenged though, don't they ,lol.
Cheers,Vinny

 

[T-Bone]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

While there, they had a Nismo 350 sitting on the showroom. Looked alright, wasnt crazy about the front and rear splitters.

Mine is getting traded off tomorrow with 741 original miles on it. I have hated the looks of the back-end since day 1. They handle and stop well but are grossly underpowered.....I guess for $38,000 though, you get what you pay for. Not many buyers taking them now because a regular 350Z has the exact same powerplant and brakes so for $10,000 extra, the NISMO is kind of a rip-off. I had to learn the hard way and it was my first Nissan and will probably be my last!

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Hey Vinny, you been eating those stinky fish again? You say we are getting touchy, you are quite defensive also. I wasn't bashing the GTR just commenting on the ability of the LS motor. I agree with you in that a company with the magnitude of GM you would think they could produce an untouchable supercar. But look at it this way, when someone says supercar I'm sure most think of a european auto maker, porsche, ferrari, lambo, not a chevy corvette. It is an american icon but on the world platform I'm sure it is one of the last on the list. For them to put a blower on a 7 liter that in the Z06 makes 505hp you would think it could muster more that 638. I would expect more like 700. Not saying I would pitch a fat one to drive a z06 of a zr1......oh almost just thinking about it. I will agree if I saw a GTR on the street I'm sure I would just wave and watch, wouldn't want to deal with the embarrassment. I haven't read up on the engine, what makes th GTR engine so "technologically advanced"?

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Mine is getting traded off tomorrow with 741 original miles on it. I have hated the looks of the back-end since day 1. They handle and stop well but are grossly underpowered.....I guess for $38,000 though, you get what you pay for. Not many buyers taking them now because a regular 350Z has the exact same powerplant and brakes so for $10,000 extra, the NISMO is kind of a rip-off. I had to learn the hard way and it was my first Nissan and will probably be my last!

A friend of mine got really ripped off and paid the extra bling for one that has G-35 badges. We tried to tell him to save his money and get a 350 and mod it but he said it was an image thing, what a vag. I have yet to seen it but once the ty is running I'll find him. He thinks it will take my shoebox, Ha ha I say maybe on a back country road.

 

[CarbonFiber AWD]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Hey Vinny, you been eating those stinky fish again? You say we are getting touchy, you are quite defensive also. I wasn't bashing the GTR just commenting on the ability of the LS motor. I agree with you in that a company with the magnitude of GM you would think they could produce an untouchable supercar. But look at it this way, when someone says supercar I'm sure most think of a european auto maker, porsche, ferrari, lambo, not a chevy corvette. It is an american icon but on the world platform I'm sure it is one of the last on the list. For them to put a blower on a 7 liter that in the Z06 makes 505hp you would think it could muster more that 638. I would expect more like 700. Not saying I would pitch a fat one to drive a z06 of a zr1......oh almost just thinking about it. I will agree if I saw a GTR on the street I'm sure I would just wave and watch, wouldn't want to deal with the embarrassment. I haven't read up on the engine, what makes th GTR engine so "technologically advanced"?

Hahaha, holding out on the Sturstromming for next years Nats.:lol: Nasty,nasty stuff.

I don't feel defensive about the GT-R banter, I always knew it would be the source of much debate.Lol. Its entertaining ,is all.
My Vette buddies HATE-HATE-HATE the GT-R and all it stands for.....so I hear it all the time. The guy above,,,David....is a friend of mine. I was just busting his balls abit there.

The GT-R has all kinds of boring/exciting sensors and controls that are way beyond what most cars of its cost level currently have. SO many confuse it to be a non driver enthusiasts car as if it steered and launched for you etc. Its not like this at all. It takes some getting used to like ANY new car does to get its best performance.

Oh well........I just like cars..........ALL of them, except the Chrysler K car. Renzes wet dream car,lol.
I'd probably buy a new Vette....if there weren't 6 of them in the parking lot here at work.
Cheers,Vinny

 

[T-Bone]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

A friend of mine got really ripped off and paid the extra bling for one that has G-35 badges. We tried to tell him to save his money and get a 350 and mod it but he said it was an image thing, what a vag. I have yet to seen it but once the ty is running I'll find him. He thinks it will take my shoebox, Ha ha I say maybe on a back country road.

They will out-manuever a Ty and out brake one too but they can't keep up on a 100 mph sprint. Mine has not been over 5,000 rpm yet and some say that is when the power is just beginning but I wanna feel it whenever I step on the gas. Thus the trade for a Z06 tomorrow :tup:

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Oh definately a nice trade. The handling is a given considering I have a 4200 lb box and they are sports cars. I bet some of the Sy's on the board with alittle suspension work could keep up. Think nissan built the GTR to try to make up for the 350 since it doesn't perform that well? Just to prove they can still do it. I can't believe Toyota has reintroduced the supra yet. They gotta miss that car.
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[Grimgrak]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

God knows you've spent at least double that and I doubt your capable of a 9.

Very true, buy a nice sy for 14gs and dump that amount of money into youll be in the 9's.

 

[SYO237]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

FAIL

http://jalopnik.com/5044538/nissan-gt+r-crashed-in-the-usa

 

[Deanzsyclone]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

God knows you've spent at least double that and I doubt your capable of a 9.

Yes I did go a wee bit overboard on my build. You hardly need a bowtie block, or even a billet crank, and you can do without the 4l80e conversion, none of which helps you go faster, but does raise the pricetag. You can even use a cheaper engine management than BS3, but none of that changes what I said, you can spend 15 gs, plus or minus an aplicable amount and dip into the 9s if done right.
As far as my truck in the 9s, I can't say with proof since I've never hit a track with it. BUT I will say that I'm doing tens ON THE STREET! @ 23lbs boost on a cold asphalt street, no meth, and street tires to boot!!

But give me
1. preped track
2. Slicks, or at least drag radials
3. turn my boost from 25to 30lbs
4. Install my meth injection kit
5. Tune for meth injection

I can't imagine that I couldn't hit 9s with little or no problem with those factors added in.

I've been to lazy to install the meth kit and take the time to get it to a track, which is rather far from me.

 

[syclone3]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Just had a GTR on my dyno last week. Guys shows up with a COBB accessport already installed. Was to do a baseline first, then their stage one map all on 91. So it made 459 in 4th gear on my Mustang dyno with the stage one map. He ran it low on gas, filled up with 100 unleaded and came back the next day, ran it on the stock map first, on 100, made 460. On the stage one map made 490.
Kind of hard to say what the 100 is adding but it looks like 30 hp on the graphs. Now he got an exhaust and will be back soon.
Its a huge ass car. Seriously. They were looking at two of my Syclones. I said find a cement road and I will race him to 80 with the beater Syclone. They think something is up.....